"Heckler" to Kerry

What Walter "the Heckler" Daum said to Kerry last week, and how  Kerry
responded.  The Rush Limbaugh website has the audio clip of the exchange
between Daum and Kerry.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_041504/content/john_f_ing_kerry_stack.guest.html

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: The Democratic Party assumed presidential candidate John Kerry went
over to the City College in Harlem yesterday and had an encounter with a
former college professor in the audience by the name of Walter Daum. He's
the former assistant dean of City College, and he got up in the middle of
Kerry's speech -- well, actually not. There was Kerry's speech, and then
there was a townhall meeting Q&A afterwards and that's when the former
assistant dean of the City College got up and began a repartee shall we
say with the assumed Democratic presidential nominee.


DAUM: You have said, "Stay the course." George Bush calls the people there
"thugs;" you call them "extremists." But they hated Saddam Hussein, and
they now hate us. They wanted Saddam Hussein out. Now they want the United
States out. And you say, "Stay the course." What the United States is
doing is bombing hospitals, bombing mosques, sniping at civilians, killing
hundreds of civilians, wounding thousands of civilians. And you say, "Stay
the course." Is that the criminal course that you want to stay? This is an
imperialist country that's fighting an imperialist war. You say, "Stay the
course of this imperialist war," and you say you are a stark difference
from George Bush. People hate George Bush. By the end of your presidency
people will hate you for the same thing. You may fool some of the
Americans that you are different from George Bush on this war, but you're
not fooling most of the world and you're going to fool Iraqis.

RUSH: Alright, for those of you that live in New York, this is the kind of
insanity that's been running the universities that you have been sending
your kids to. We're doing just the opposite. We are building hospitals,
building mosques. We are not killing, sniping, blowing up any of those
things. We are not an imperialist country, and he was trying to obviously
-- I mean, this is the way Kerry sounded when he came back from Vietnam.
This is the kind of stuff Kerry was saying about America vis--vis Vietnam
when he came back. As Walter Daum here is saying [translated/paraphrased]:
"You are a traitor. You used to look at America the way I look at it, but
now you don't. You're no different than Bush, and we hate Bush, and you're
going to be hated, too, if you don't watch out."

And what's interesting about this, I have seen the AP version of this
story in countless places today and not once is the line, "People hate
George Bush, and by the end of your presidency people will hate you for
the same thing." The only line that they use from this Walter Daum guy is
some inconsequential line to which Kerry responds, "You're not listening
to me," and they call him a "heckler." But they've left out, this is the
meat of what this Walter Daum said. Listen. He's attacking the country as
"an imperialist country." We are "murderers." We're "sniping at civilians,
killing hundreds of civilians, wounding thousands of civilians." This is
what liberals think of America, folks. They've got this guy, this nominee
out there, and he's not...(sniffs).

I'll tell you what this represents to me (and pardon the sniffles but it
happens every time I laugh hysterically which I've been doing lately).
They've nominated the wrong guy. This little speech from Walter Daum to
John Kerry, the translation is: "We thought you were somebody else. We
thought you were a liberal Democrat, so we thought that meant something.
Now here you are, you're the nominee and you're no different than Bush!"
And I told everybody back in the days when Kerry won Iowa and swept into
New Hampshire -- and all this cascading started and all these primaries --
these Democrats just voted for Kerry because they thought he was the guy
that was going to win and during all these exit polls you would see that
they didn't care about Kerry.


They didn't even know what he stood for. Their #1 reason for voting for
him was, "Well, he looks like a guy that can beat Bush because we hate
Bush," and I said, "There's going to be some buyer's remorse, because they
guy doesn't excite them. He doesn't energize them. He doesn't inspire them
doesn't motivate 'em. The charisma quotient here is a little lacking," and
nevertheless they go ahead and they nominate him and the Democrats, you
know, kind of got screwed by their own media because the media is covering
all these primaries as though this guy is win being the presidency in
every one of them. "It's a record! Why, it's never seen unity like this!"
You've heard it. Remember the media talks to all these Democrats around
the country are getting all excited?

"Wow! Why, we may really be able to get rid of the Bush guy that we hate!"
The media got them all excited but they didn't know who the candidate was
because he didn't do much speaking. All these surrogates are out there
doing it. Now he's showing up, and I'm telling you here today, ladies and
gentlemen, what you just heard from this former dean, assistant dean of
City College, Walter Daum accusing this country of murdering thousands of
civilians and destroying mosques and bombing civilian targets, that's who
America's mainstream left is today and they thought they had nominated
somebody of like-mind and now they're a little bit upset. They've been
bamboozled and this is, I think, just the first of many such examples of
this -- especially in the Northeast.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: All right, we're going to now play that sound bite again followed by
John Kerry's reaction to it. So let's go back to #2. Here's the former
Assistant Dean of City College, Walter Daum, chastising Kerry for being on
the same track as Bush in terms of being hated by the American people.

(Replaying of Daum sound bite.)

RUSH: All right, now here comes the dynamic response to this from somebody
that's on Kerry's side.

KERRY: I have consistently been critical of how we got where we are, but
we are where we are, sir. And it would be unwise beyond belief for the
United States of America to leave a failed Iraq in its wake. And I want
the Americans out, and so do Americans want --

DAUM: No you don't. You say, "Stay the course," senator.

KERRY: Let me just finish. Stay the course of leaving a stable Iraq.

RUSH: So, this guy's just ripped (Kerry) into pieces and thrown him up
against the wall, and Kerry does not address the specifics of what the guy
says, does not defend the action that we're taking, does not defend the
country against this charge of murdering civilians, wounding civilians,
and all this other stuff that was included. Instead he says [Kerry
sing-song voice:] "I have consistently been critical of how we got there,
but we're there, sir, and it would be unwise beyond belief for the United
States of America to..." and this Walter Daum is sitting there pulling his
hair out. [program observer interruption] What? He can't answer it. He
cannot deal with these people. These debates are going to be something.
They're going to be pathetic. They're going to be like watching Janet Reno
there.


This is a stock, cue-card answer, and he doesn't know how can he get off
of it. I mean, this is an anti-war guy who is for Kerry, and he cannot
even answer this guy with his own statements in the past. [program
observer interruption] Well, obviously. Well, okay, I see what you're
saying. "How can he answer this guy because Kerry said the same stuff
during the Vietnam." Well, at some point, this is where Kerry is going ot
have to. He's gotten himself in this trap. [Kerry impression:] "Went to
Vietnam, I protested Vietnam," blah, blah. They're trying to revive
Vietnam service. So here come people who think Kerry is one of these great
guys. That's who they think he is. That's my whole point. They've
nominated somebody that they don't know. They've nominated somebody they
don't understand. If Kerry were to go out and defend the country, this guy
would be pulling his hair out, this Walter Daum.

That would be the end. Kerry might not have got out of there alive. If
this guy starts saying, "Mr. Daum, I object to you characterizing this as
an imperialist action," ugh! So this is an example, folks, of who the
liberals are and how they get trapped. Kerry is trying to be all things to
all people but he can't satisfy his own base. When they learn who he is,
they don't understand it, and they don't like it, and here's Daum warning
he's going to be as hated as they hate Bush. So you heard Kerry's
response. He says [Kerry sing-song voice:] "Let me just finish. Stay the
course, leaving." This is not real talk to people like this Walter Daum
guy. You know, this is stump speech stuff that nobody responds to. [Kerry
sing-song voice:] "Stay the course of leaving a stable Iraq." I'll betcha
he doesn't even know the words. I betcha he's just mouthing the syllables.
So anyway, Walter Daum responds.

KERRY: If you don't leave a stable Iraq with a legitimacy to whatever
entity is going to transform the government, you have the potential for a
civil war, you have the potential for Shi'a vs. Sunni vs. Kurd. There are
all kinds of potentials. Let me just finish.

DAUM: They are united against the occupation.

KERRY: Yes, but...but...but the point is this, sir. You're not listening
to me.

DAUM: Oh, yes, I am.

KERRY: Well, then you haven't, frankly, listened, because in fact the
course that I have proposed is to you turn over to the United Nations the
full responsibility for the transformation of the government and for the
reconstruction.

RUSH: Walter Daum was not finished.(laughing) It didn't satisfy him.

DAUM: No, he said he was going to bring in the UN and NATO as the
solution, and that's not different from an American imperialist
occupation.

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