Re: Re: arresting sparks in comex

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Thanks

Ty


On 10/11/06, Zac Imboden <[email protected]> wrote

>  On Oct 11, 2006, at 11:06 AM, R Buckner wrote:
>
> Zac,
> I really do not understand what is going on here concening the electrical
> and the way members are communicating with each other.  It is very difficult
> to respond to each concern when people are communicating through virtual
> digital means.  Who is in charge? Who makes the final decision on how
> something is done? How many people do I have to explain myself to before I
> repair the relay/contactor?
>
>
>
> What process would you prefer? The General Manager is in charge of day to
> day business operations (as stated in the By-Laws). Because there isn't
> currently a GM, I believe leads for each committee are coordinating with the
> board to make daily decisions. Brian can correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>
> If you prefer, you can just work with Thom Tricola and he can coordinate
> with the board and felix regarding making decisions.
>
>
> If indeed the comex is a Class I, Division 1 or Division 2 Hazardous
> Location, then all the eletrical in the comex will probably have to be
> redone.
> Class I locations are described as something like "for all voltages
> in....hazardous locations where fire or explosion hazards may exist due to
> flammable gases or vapors or flammable liquids".  These locations require
> special explosion proof and spark proof enclosures for all the electrical.
> Very expensive.  I think Felix understands this.  I talked with him briefly
> about it.
>
>
>
> It is my understanding that the current set-up was what was done to get us
> making fuel quickly. We are moving as quickly as we can to a Phase II
> processor that will address larger safety and efficiency concerns. In the
> meantime, we have to do the best we can. I believe moving that one relay
> away from the reactors will be an important safety upgrade.
>
>
> My understanding is to get the system up and working immediately to make
> fuel.  I believe bringing in an city inspector on site is going to open up a
> can of worms.  Are we prepared for this?  Sound like a Catch-22.
>
>
>
> As long as they don't actually shut us down, I think it would be important
> to get their recommendations and feedback. We know there is a possibility
> that we are not meeting code with our current set-up. If you feel
> uncomfortable with that, we should address your specific concerns and decide
> whether you want to do the work. I don't think you should get involved if
> you feel uncomfortable about doing so, however your recommendations are
> invaluable feedback to us and will help us make decisions on how to proceed,
> obviously.
>
>
> I can make the system work with a minimal amout of effort and materials.
>
>
>
> That is what we're looking for *while still reaching forward as much as is
> feasible with time and work constraints*. How much is one explosion proof
> box roughly if we can't move the relay?
>
>
> We probably need to put a notice on site warning people of the potential
> dangers involved working close to or inside the comex.  How much methanol
> gas floats around in the comex?  What amount of concentration is needed to
> cause an explosion?
>
>
>
> That is an excellent idea. I'm ccing your email to the safety committee to
> take action on. We are working on signage for the site.
>
>
> Ron
>
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