Re: Re: arresting sparks in comex

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On Oct 11, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Ty Lesch wrote:

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> On 10/11/06, Zac Imboden <[email protected]> wrote
> On Oct 11, 2006, at 11:06 AM, R Buckner wrote:
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>> Zac,
>> I really do not understand what is going on here concening the  
>> electrical and the way members are communicating with each other.   
>> It is very difficult to respond to each concern when people are  
>> communicating through virtual digital means.  Who is in charge?  
>> Who makes the final decision on how something is done? How many  
>> people do I have to explain myself to before I repair the relay/ 
>> contactor?
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>
> What process would you prefer? The General Manager is in charge of  
> day to day business operations (as stated in the By-Laws). Because  
> there isn't currently a GM, I believe leads for each committee are  
> coordinating with the board to make daily decisions. Brian can  
> correct me if I'm wrong.
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> If you prefer, you can just work with Thom Tricola and he can  
> coordinate with the board and felix regarding making decisions.
>
>>
>> If indeed the comex is a Class I, Division 1 or Division 2  
>> Hazardous Location, then all the eletrical in the comex will  
>> probably have to be redone.
>> Class I locations are described as something like "for all  
>> voltages in....hazardous locations where fire or explosion hazards  
>> may exist due to flammable gases or vapors or flammable liquids".   
>> These locations require special explosion proof and spark proof  
>> enclosures for all the electrical.  Very expensive.  I think Felix  
>> understands this.  I talked with him briefly about it.
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>
> It is my understanding that the current set-up was what was done to  
> get us making fuel quickly. We are moving as quickly as we can to a  
> Phase II processor that will address larger safety and efficiency  
> concerns. In the meantime, we have to do the best we can. I believe  
> moving that one relay away from the reactors will be an important  
> safety upgrade.
>>
>> My understanding is to get the system up and working immediately  
>> to make fuel.  I believe bringing in an city inspector on site is  
>> going to open up a can of worms.  Are we prepared for this?  Sound  
>> like a Catch-22.
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> As long as they don't actually shut us down, I think it would be  
> important to get their recommendations and feedback. We know there  
> is a possibility that we are not meeting code with our current set- 
> up. If you feel uncomfortable with that, we should address your  
> specific concerns and decide whether you want to do the work. I  
> don't think you should get involved if you feel uncomfortable about  
> doing so, however your recommendations are invaluable feedback to  
> us and will help us make decisions on how to proceed, obviously.
>>
>> I can make the system work with a minimal amout of effort and  
>> materials.
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>
> That is what we're looking for *while still reaching forward as  
> much as is feasible with time and work constraints*. How much is  
> one explosion proof box roughly if we can't move the relay?
>>
>> We probably need to put a notice on site warning people of the  
>> potential dangers involved working close to or inside the comex.   
>> How much methanol gas floats around in the comex?  What amount of  
>> concentration is needed to cause an explosion?
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>
> That is an excellent idea. I'm ccing your email to the safety  
> committee to take action on. We are working on signage for the site.
>
>>
>> Ron
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>>
>> How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone  
>> call rates.
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