Re: [siteplan] Fuel quality

When do we get the results back from that fuel test we did a while back?

-B

On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 20:36 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
> Zac,
>  
> I was reading more about the 3/27 test on-line last night and the
> verdict was that washed fuel needed to be DRY, otherwise water may
> settle out.  This makes me think we should consider testing reacted
> fuel before the 5% wash is added, so there is no excess water to
> "cloud" the results.  
>  
> This is a learning experience like all the rest....
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Felix
>  
>         -------------- Original message -------------- 
>         From: Zac Imboden <[email protected]> 
>         We need to run all the tests that we can for every batch and
>         be rigorous about dealing with the results. It was my decision
>         to wash and dry the "failed" fuel, because I wanted to see
>         what happened to it through that process. We will test it
>         again carefully after drying and determine whether it needs to
>         be re-reacted, which is probably what will happen. 
>         
>         
>         On Dec 10, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Pete Kramer wrote:
>         
>         > I feel fuel quality comes up once and a while, but then gets
>         > swept under the run b/c raw production takes presedence and
>         > coop memebers are willing to buy it regardless. I honestly
>         > don't feel we are churning out anything bad, but I do feel
>         > we need tighter quality control. These kinds of things are
>         > never a problem until its too late!! 
>         > 
>         > Lets get this back at the forefront of our
>         > planning/discussions!
>         > 
>         > Pete
>         > 
>         > 
>         > ----- Original Message ----
>         > From: Felix Kersting <[email protected]>
>         > To: siteplan <[email protected]>; GoBiodiesel
>         > Mixmasters <[email protected]>
>         > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:07:32 PM
>         > Subject: [siteplan] Fuel quality
>         > 
>         > Friends,
>         > 
>         > Thanks to all for some great work party accomplishments on
>         > Saturday.
>         > 
>         > I know we are working hard to get the reactors back on line,
>         > but I would 
>         > like to discuss fuel quality. While we are at this pause in
>         > production, 
>         > we need to re-examine the fuel quality issue. Zac has been
>         > testing our 
>         > fuel with the 3/27 test and from what I have heard, none has
>         > passed. 
>         > This test is reported to be a good quick indicator of
>         > biodiesel purity: 
>         > no unreacted glycerindes.
>         > 
>         > I would like to suggest that we buy a sample of SeQuential
>         > from Blue Sky 
>         > and test it just for fun.
>         > 
>         > I think it would be prudent for someone to be working in the
>         > back ground 
>         > to refine our processing (using 1 liter batches) to get the
>         > chemistry 
>         > right so we pass the test every time. 
>         > 
>         > These suggestions may be way out of whack if we have tested
>         > and are sure 
>         > we are passing the ASTM quality test. Perhaps we need to
>         > pony up the 
>         > cash to just go ahead and do tha t test after we get back
>         > on-line and are 
>         > satisfied we are back to our standard production, then
>         > correlate the 
>         > results with the ASTM grade stuff.
>         > 
>         > Thoughts from anyone?
>         > 
>         > Felix
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