RE: mixmasters Digest, Vol 34, Issue 10

I won't be in town for the meeting tomorrow, but thank you all for
working so hard.
My agenda addition is related to methanol/ methoxide mixer containment.
After watching the Nat BioD board sponsored "webinar" on this topic it is
clear we have several shortcomings in our handling of methanol. The item
that pertains to the current site planning, though, is the need for methanol
containment.

I like the site plan # 4 with the meth house remaining on the north side of
the conex and the methanol barrels resting on the far side of the conex from
the parking lot. Is that still current?
I would like you to discuss a containment bin perhaps similar to that for
the processors in which the methoxide mixer sits and also for the methanol
storage beside the processor AND at the new methanol still site.

Will see you after Dec 26th.
karen
760-0982


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>    1. Re: Site Planning Meeting (Zac Imboden)
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>    3. Site/Processor Planning Meeting (Pete Kramer)
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> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:41:41 -0800
> From: Zac Imboden <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [mixmasters] Site Planning Meeting
> To: GoBiodiesel Mixmasters <[email protected]>
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> We're working on it. Mich Nelson is handling these accounts right now
> (don't know if it's a permanent responsibility for her). She can't
> find your waiver and membership form. Do you recall when you filled
> that stuff out and to whom or where you delivered it?
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> On Dec 14, 2006, at 9:06 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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> > HI, I can attend.  I have a caveat,  however.  I have asked for but
> > still don't have a carma tracker account.  John
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: Pete Kramer <pete_kramer2-/[email protected]>
> > Just a FYI to RSVP if you plan to attend.  Again, this will be a
> > great opportunity for any of you to have input on the direction we
> > are taking with site use and processor design.  Don't miss your
> > golden chance!  I will have an agenda for you by later tomorrow.
> > WHAT: Site Planning Meeting
> >
> > WHERE:  Co-op Site
> >
> > WHEN: Saturday, Dec 16; 9am SHARP!- ~11am
> >
> > So far, those attending are: Pete K, Zac, Kevin Wheeler, John
> > Sorenson?, Felix?, Ron?,
> >
> > Please refer to this link for most recent, PROPOSED site layout.
> > http://www.gobiodiesel.org/index.php?title=Site_design
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> > Thanks
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> > Pete Kramer
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> Zac Imboden
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> From: Pete Kramer <pete_kramer2-/[email protected]>
> Subject: [mixmasters] Site/Processor Planning Meeting
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> OK, just another reminder of the meeting this Sat morning.  If
> you can make it, please let me know.  Below is the agenda.
> Review and bring any questions/concerns so we can be sure we are
> all bought into the format and content for this meeting.
>
> WHAT: Site Planning Meeting
>
> WHERE:  Co-op Site
>
> WHEN: Saturday, Dec 16; 9am SHARP!- ~11am
>
> So far, those attending are: Pete K, Zac, Kevin Wheeler, John
> Sorenson, Felix, Greg R, Ron?
>
> Please refer to this link for most recent, PROPOSED site layout.
> http://www.gobiodiesel.org/index.php?title=Site_design
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete Kramer
>
>
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>
> Site Planning Mtg #4 Agenda (on-site, Sat, Dec 16, 9-11am)
>  (Meeting at Felix’s house on 12/12/06 was mtg #3)
>
> Check-in
>
> Ground rules for mtg
> Cover agenda, agree on agenda, stick to agenda
> Each section will be open for input, NOT questions
> Respect the whole agenda, timing
> I will interrupt, I apologize, don’t take it personally
> This meeting is set-up for failure, but can still be productive
>
> Cover agenda
>
> IMMEDIATE Processor/Site Upgrades (next 1-15+ days); 90% vision
> (1 hr total)
> Fuel producing process, stays the same (<5 min)
> Site layout, physical location of components (<5 min)
> Seal processors (20 min)
> Seal lids
> Eductors
> Additional fittings
> Good insulation ideas
> Electrical needs (20 min)
> Methoxide mixer needs; location, air compressor, tubing (5 min)
> Pumps needed (<5 min)
> General hose/fittings needed (<5 min)
> Misc needs (pump tagging, vessel tagging, shed lighting…) (<5 min)
>
> Near future Processor/Site Upgrades (start now –complete by March
> 1?); 40% vision (30 min total)
> Fuel producing process, some basic changes? (10 min)
> Site layout, physical location of components (5 min)
> Methoxide mixer and methanol storage
> Location and use of 650 gal tanks
> WVO storage
> Waste water storage
> Glycerin storage & use (Co-products cmte task)
> Electrical needs (10 min)
> Additional pumps, hose/fittings, misc needs (5 min)
>
> Future Processor/Site Upgrades (start March–complete by Aug 1,
> 2007?); 20% vision (10 min total)
> Code compliance (<5 min)
> Fuel producing process??? (<5 min)
> Site layout (5 min)
> Concrete slab w/ containment walls
> Large metal shed for all or most of processing?
> Electrical needs (<5 min)
>
> Fuel Quality and Testing (10 min)
> test fuel ASAP; status?
> Amanda test fuel at UofO in Corvallis, status?
> Seth –testing fuel at PSU?..
>
> Misc needs not discussed?  Issues?  (10 min total)
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