Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B

Call either pacific hose and fittings (503) 286-2222 8405 N Albina Ave
or Harbor Freight 503-493-2863 (Gresham)

These should be on our permanent vendors list.

On May 21, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Gary Nepple wrote:

> Felix,
>
> Went to Home Depot for the parts list you sent me. Got 12 ea. 3/4" PVC
> threaded ball valves and 30 ea. 3/4" male adapters. The two  
> employees I
> talked to neither had any idea what 20' of 5/8' or 20' of 3/4'  
> strut was nor
> did anyone on the electrical aisle, other than to say that is  
> sounded like
> something to hold things apart and that it was "contractor talk"  
> and that
> they didn't know what it means. They could not direct me to the  
> 3/4" pipe
> clamps. (I handed them a printout of your list). I have not yet  
> found the
> 60' of hose (or cam locks - also unknown at Home Depot) that Zac  
> mentioned.
> Called Pacific Rubber for hose (only had O rings for  
> microprocessors) ...
> they referred me to Premier Rubber, who will not have any in for  
> 11/2 weeks
> and could not quote a price in any case. Cost today: $45.18
>
> Guess I'll try Ferguson tomorrow, if I can find any more time.
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kramer, Peter [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:36 PM
> To: Zac Imboden; GoBiodiesel Mixmasters
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; wheelerk-/[email protected]
> Subject: RE: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B
>
> Thanks for the update.  If I make it down there on Wed, I will call  
> you
> before to find out what needs to be done next with the current  
> wash.  I
> would offer to pick up the mtls needed, but with my day job, its  
> awfully
> tough for me to get to the places to make those purchases before  
> they close.
>
>
> Can anyone on this e-mail list make these purchases happen this  
> week?..
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete
>
>   _____
>
> From: Zac Imboden [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:52 AM
> To: Kramer, Peter; GoBiodiesel Mixmasters
> Cc: Felix Kersting; Brian Jamison; [email protected];
> [email protected]; wheelerk-/[email protected]
> Subject: Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B
>
> Jeff came down yesterday. He unloaded 5 more barrels of fuel and we  
> loaded
> up 5 barrels of WVO.
>
> Washing
> ----------------
> Things are going slow. Our wash recirculation is not working  
> properly, which
> means we have to use fresh water for every pass. The recirculation  
> will
> successfully recirculate wash water from the wash tote bottom to  
> the sprayer
> for about 5-10 minutes, before bits of fuel start emulsifying.
>
> Felix and I are going to put a rheostat on the pump (thanks Zan for  
> the
> tip!) and slow it down a bit and see if that let's us recirculate for
> longer.
>
> I've gone through 6 washes now on our first 100 gallons. I'm using  
> our old
> friend, phenolphthalein, as a rough indicator. Other ideas on  
> ascertaining
> when the wash water is neutral? Maybe someone could pick up some pH  
> tests.
>
> Needs
> ---------
> Wash Duty: We need washers, people to come down and wash fuel. It's  
> our most
> important need.
>
> 2nd wash tote: If we want to have any hope of keeping up with Jeff,  
> we need
> to set up a second wash tote. Need some people to come down and  
> plumb that
> up.
>
> Hoses: I asked Gary about getting 60 feet of hose and 3 sets of  
> camlock
> connectors. Felix wants me to amend that request to 3 males and 6  
> females.
> We have three hoses that are leaking now.
>
> Water Heater: We need to get a second water heater online to handle  
> the
> voracious appetite of our wash tote (since it is finnicky about
> recirculation). It's hard to do repeated washes quickly when I go  
> through 50
> gallons and then have to refill our single water heater and wait  
> for it to
> heat up.
>
> Brian,
>
> I talked to Jeff about doing a prewash. He would need to pump his  
> reacted
> fuel to a settling tank to have room to add 5% water. Currently his  
> reactor
> is totally full when he reacts and there is no room for adding  
> water. Doing
> a 5% prewash will accomplish two important things:
>
> 1) It will make the propensity for emulsification of fuel in our  
> washes drop
> dramatically, as it gets rid of a significant portion of lye in  
> advance.
>
> 2) It will cut our number of washes needed per batch in half (at  
> the very
> least), which speeds up the time it takes us to wash.
>
> If you can talk Jeff into doing a prewash, it would be the most  
> impactive
> thing we can do for our wash process. (and I know you can talk  
> anyone into
> anything).
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Kramer, Peter wrote:
>
> Zac/Kevin and others,
>
> How did it go this wknd? Was oil moved around?  As you all may have  
> already
> found out, Jeff would like to keep those white barrels he brings  
> the fuel
> in, clean and just leave them empty for him to pick up next time he  
> comes so
> we keep using the same barrels for biod. Note, he also recommended  
> that when
> we are emptying the biod into our wash, be sure to keep an eye on  
> what we
> are pumping out as there could be some unwanted by-product that  
> settles to
> the bottom.  Maybe we just make it a practice to leave the bottom  
> inch of
> fuel in each barrel.  That was the reason he drops off on Mon; give  
> us some
> settling time before transfer into wash.
>
> Is anyone have time to be down at site during the week?  I might be  
> able to
> carve out a night.  Wed is looking the best for me.  Let me know if  
> you can
> make it.
>
> Pete
>
>   _____
>
> From: Zac Imboden [ mailto:[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> ]
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 12:42 AM
> To: Kramer, Peter
> Cc: Felix Kersting; jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org
> <mailto:jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> ; Brian Jamison;
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ;
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; kkruse;  
> wheelerk-/[email protected]
> <mailto:wheelerk-/[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B
>
> Thanks for organizing this Pete. I talked to Felix tonight, mostly  
> about
> wash particulars.
> I will be down on site on Sunday morning. Anyone that wants to come  
> down
> then can help fill up oil barrels. I *think* we have enough barrels to
> accommodate Jeff's request.
>
> Jeff,
>
> We will need you to bring back the empty barrels so we can refill  
> them.
>
> On May 18, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Kramer, Peter wrote:
>
>
>
> Just talked with Jeff to work out the details for oil/fuel  
> transfer.  Jeff
> would really like to minimize his time on site, so him coming down  
> with a
> tote and pumping WVO into it is just not a practical method.  So,  
> what he
> has requested is that we have (5) 55 gal barrels of WVO filled and  
> set aside
> for him every Mon morning.  He will come down, pick those up and  
> drop off
> (5) 55 gal barrels of raw (unwashed) biod.
> Jeff said he will pick up ANY WVO, regardless of what state its  
> in!  He will
> come down sometime soon to assess our really thick, bottom sludge,  
> but he
> has confidence he can pick that up.
>
> With our excess stock, Jeff is willing to take ~(9) 55 gal barrels  
> this next
> time to help us clean up / organize our site.  First order of  
> business is
> give him ANY barrels that have WVO in them and the totes along the  
> fence.
> Jeff will have to help us out in emptying those sludge totes (maybe  
> help
> with some type of heating).
>
> While our focus has to remain on washing/drying, we have to deal  
> with this
> initial effort of oil consolidation for Jeff.  I am not around this  
> wknd;
> can anyone help organize a couple people to do this oil transfer?   
> (Not Zac,
> Felix or anyone else who is familiar with wash; you have to stay on  
> wash
> duty!)  If so, but not sure what oil to get or where it is, please  
> feel free
> to call me anytime and I can get back to you.  My cell: 503-704-4555.
> Thanks  Pete
>
> Peter Kramer, LEED(r) AP
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> 1534 SE 35th Place
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[email protected]
1534 SE 35th Place
Portland, OR
97214
971-563-2477