Re: mixmasters Digest, Vol 39, Issue 7
Felix Kersting <[email protected]> Wed, 23 May 2007 22:51:18 -0700
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1053261020== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010908020707050702080402" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010908020707050702080402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a Harbor Freight in North Portland as well. Felix mixmasters-request-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org wrote: > Send mixmasters mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mixmasters-request-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mixmasters-owner-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of mixmasters digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B (Zac Imboden) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:47:05 -0700 > From: Zac Imboden <[email protected]> > Subject: [mixmasters] Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: "Cathy Geiger \(E-mail\)" <utomindful-/[email protected]>, "'Kramer, > Peter'" <[email protected]>, [email protected], 'GoBiodiesel > Mixmasters' <[email protected]>, wheelerk-/[email protected] > Message-ID: <EBCC53C5-FC85-41A2-931B-E3B5AA9A8A63-aZ6PXv3Ip8kQwY+2splSUA@public.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Call either pacific hose and fittings (503) 286-2222 8405 N Albina Ave > or Harbor Freight 503-493-2863 (Gresham) > > These should be on our permanent vendors list. > > On May 21, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Gary Nepple wrote: > > >> Felix, >> >> Went to Home Depot for the parts list you sent me. Got 12 ea. 3/4" PVC >> threaded ball valves and 30 ea. 3/4" male adapters. The two >> employees I >> talked to neither had any idea what 20' of 5/8' or 20' of 3/4' >> strut was nor >> did anyone on the electrical aisle, other than to say that is >> sounded like >> something to hold things apart and that it was "contractor talk" >> and that >> they didn't know what it means. They could not direct me to the >> 3/4" pipe >> clamps. (I handed them a printout of your list). I have not yet >> found the >> 60' of hose (or cam locks - also unknown at Home Depot) that Zac >> mentioned. >> Called Pacific Rubber for hose (only had O rings for >> microprocessors) ... >> they referred me to Premier Rubber, who will not have any in for >> 11/2 weeks >> and could not quote a price in any case. Cost today: $45.18 >> >> Guess I'll try Ferguson tomorrow, if I can find any more time. >> >> Gary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kramer, Peter [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:36 PM >> To: Zac Imboden; GoBiodiesel Mixmasters >> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; wheelerk-/[email protected] >> Subject: RE: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B >> >> Thanks for the update. If I make it down there on Wed, I will call >> you >> before to find out what needs to be done next with the current >> wash. I >> would offer to pick up the mtls needed, but with my day job, its >> awfully >> tough for me to get to the places to make those purchases before >> they close. >> >> >> Can anyone on this e-mail list make these purchases happen this >> week?.. >> >> Thanks >> >> Pete >> >> _____ >> >> From: Zac Imboden [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:52 AM >> To: Kramer, Peter; GoBiodiesel Mixmasters >> Cc: Felix Kersting; Brian Jamison; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; wheelerk-/[email protected] >> Subject: Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B >> >> Jeff came down yesterday. He unloaded 5 more barrels of fuel and we >> loaded >> up 5 barrels of WVO. >> >> Washing >> ---------------- >> Things are going slow. Our wash recirculation is not working >> properly, which >> means we have to use fresh water for every pass. The recirculation >> will >> successfully recirculate wash water from the wash tote bottom to >> the sprayer >> for about 5-10 minutes, before bits of fuel start emulsifying. >> >> Felix and I are going to put a rheostat on the pump (thanks Zan for >> the >> tip!) and slow it down a bit and see if that let's us recirculate for >> longer. >> >> I've gone through 6 washes now on our first 100 gallons. I'm using >> our old >> friend, phenolphthalein, as a rough indicator. Other ideas on >> ascertaining >> when the wash water is neutral? Maybe someone could pick up some pH >> tests. >> >> Needs >> --------- >> Wash Duty: We need washers, people to come down and wash fuel. It's >> our most >> important need. >> >> 2nd wash tote: If we want to have any hope of keeping up with Jeff, >> we need >> to set up a second wash tote. Need some people to come down and >> plumb that >> up. >> >> Hoses: I asked Gary about getting 60 feet of hose and 3 sets of >> camlock >> connectors. Felix wants me to amend that request to 3 males and 6 >> females. >> We have three hoses that are leaking now. >> >> Water Heater: We need to get a second water heater online to handle >> the >> voracious appetite of our wash tote (since it is finnicky about >> recirculation). It's hard to do repeated washes quickly when I go >> through 50 >> gallons and then have to refill our single water heater and wait >> for it to >> heat up. >> >> Brian, >> >> I talked to Jeff about doing a prewash. He would need to pump his >> reacted >> fuel to a settling tank to have room to add 5% water. Currently his >> reactor >> is totally full when he reacts and there is no room for adding >> water. Doing >> a 5% prewash will accomplish two important things: >> >> 1) It will make the propensity for emulsification of fuel in our >> washes drop >> dramatically, as it gets rid of a significant portion of lye in >> advance. >> >> 2) It will cut our number of washes needed per batch in half (at >> the very >> least), which speeds up the time it takes us to wash. >> >> If you can talk Jeff into doing a prewash, it would be the most >> impactive >> thing we can do for our wash process. (and I know you can talk >> anyone into >> anything). >> >> >> >> On May 21, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Kramer, Peter wrote: >> >> Zac/Kevin and others, >> >> How did it go this wknd? Was oil moved around? As you all may have >> already >> found out, Jeff would like to keep those white barrels he brings >> the fuel >> in, clean and just leave them empty for him to pick up next time he >> comes so >> we keep using the same barrels for biod. Note, he also recommended >> that when >> we are emptying the biod into our wash, be sure to keep an eye on >> what we >> are pumping out as there could be some unwanted by-product that >> settles to >> the bottom. Maybe we just make it a practice to leave the bottom >> inch of >> fuel in each barrel. That was the reason he drops off on Mon; give >> us some >> settling time before transfer into wash. >> >> Is anyone have time to be down at site during the week? I might be >> able to >> carve out a night. Wed is looking the best for me. Let me know if >> you can >> make it. >> >> Pete >> >> _____ >> >> From: Zac Imboden [ mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> ] >> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 12:42 AM >> To: Kramer, Peter >> Cc: Felix Kersting; jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org >> <mailto:jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> ; Brian Jamison; >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; kkruse; >> wheelerk-/[email protected] >> <mailto:wheelerk-/[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B >> >> Thanks for organizing this Pete. I talked to Felix tonight, mostly >> about >> wash particulars. >> I will be down on site on Sunday morning. Anyone that wants to come >> down >> then can help fill up oil barrels. I *think* we have enough barrels to >> accommodate Jeff's request. >> >> Jeff, >> >> We will need you to bring back the empty barrels so we can refill >> them. >> >> On May 18, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Kramer, Peter wrote: >> >> >> >> Just talked with Jeff to work out the details for oil/fuel >> transfer. Jeff >> would really like to minimize his time on site, so him coming down >> with a >> tote and pumping WVO into it is just not a practical method. So, >> what he >> has requested is that we have (5) 55 gal barrels of WVO filled and >> set aside >> for him every Mon morning. He will come down, pick those up and >> drop off >> (5) 55 gal barrels of raw (unwashed) biod. >> Jeff said he will pick up ANY WVO, regardless of what state its >> in! He will >> come down sometime soon to assess our really thick, bottom sludge, >> but he >> has confidence he can pick that up. >> >> With our excess stock, Jeff is willing to take ~(9) 55 gal barrels >> this next >> time to help us clean up / organize our site. First order of >> business is >> give him ANY barrels that have WVO in them and the totes along the >> fence. >> Jeff will have to help us out in emptying those sludge totes (maybe >> help >> with some type of heating). >> >> While our focus has to remain on washing/drying, we have to deal >> with this >> initial effort of oil consolidation for Jeff. I am not around this >> wknd; >> can anyone help organize a couple people to do this oil transfer? >> (Not Zac, >> Felix or anyone else who is familiar with wash; you have to stay on >> wash >> duty!) If so, but not sure what oil to get or where it is, please >> feel free >> to call me anytime and I can get back to you. My cell: 503-704-4555. >> Thanks Pete >> >> Peter Kramer, LEED(r) AP >> BAS Sales Engineer >> TRANEOREGON >> 503-620-8031 >> DIR 503-431-2541 | FAX 503-639-1454 >> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] >> >> >> <file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\tsptl141\Application%20Data >> \Microsoft >> \Signatures\www.TraneOregon.com> www.TraneOregon.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> Zac Imboden >> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] >> 1534 SE 35th Place >> Portland, OR >> 97214 >> 971-563-2477 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> Zac Imboden >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> 1534 SE 35th Place >> Portland, OR >> 97214 >> 971-563-2477 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <winmail.dat> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Zac Imboden > [email protected] > 1534 SE 35th Place > Portland, OR > 97214 > 971-563-2477 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > mixmasters mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters > > End of mixmasters Digest, Vol 39, Issue 7 > ***************************************** > > --------------010908020707050702080402 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> There is a Harbor Freight in North Portland as well.<br> <br> Felix<br> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mixmasters-request-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org">mixmasters-request-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="mid20070523190140.6002E18D0A-IcuUqqHpL2957eYmF0pcDQ@public.gmane.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Send mixmasters mailing list submissions to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters">http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mixmasters-request-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org">mixmasters-request-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mixmasters-owner-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org">mixmasters-owner-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of mixmasters digest..." 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Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B (Zac Imboden) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:47:05 -0700 From: Zac Imboden <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: [mixmasters] Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Cc: "Cathy Geiger \(E-mail\)" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:utomindful-/[email protected]"><utomindful-/[email protected]></a>, "'Kramer, Peter'" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, 'GoBiodiesel Mixmasters' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wheelerk-/[email protected]">wheelerk-/[email protected]</a> Message-ID: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:EBCC53C5-FC85-41A2-931B-E3B5AA9A8A63-aZ6PXv3Ip8kQwY+2splSUA@public.gmane.org"><EBCC53C5-FC85-41A2-931B-E3B5AA9A8A63-aZ6PXv3Ip8kQwY+2splSUA@public.gmane.org></a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Call either pacific hose and fittings (503) 286-2222 8405 N Albina Ave or Harbor Freight 503-493-2863 (Gresham) These should be on our permanent vendors list. On May 21, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Gary Nepple wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Felix, Went to Home Depot for the parts list you sent me. Got 12 ea. 3/4" PVC threaded ball valves and 30 ea. 3/4" male adapters. The two employees I talked to neither had any idea what 20' of 5/8' or 20' of 3/4' strut was nor did anyone on the electrical aisle, other than to say that is sounded like something to hold things apart and that it was "contractor talk" and that they didn't know what it means. They could not direct me to the 3/4" pipe clamps. (I handed them a printout of your list). I have not yet found the 60' of hose (or cam locks - also unknown at Home Depot) that Zac mentioned. Called Pacific Rubber for hose (only had O rings for microprocessors) ... they referred me to Premier Rubber, who will not have any in for 11/2 weeks and could not quote a price in any case. Cost today: $45.18 Guess I'll try Ferguson tomorrow, if I can find any more time. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Kramer, Peter [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:36 PM To: Zac Imboden; GoBiodiesel Mixmasters Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wheelerk-/[email protected]">wheelerk-/[email protected]</a> Subject: RE: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B Thanks for the update. If I make it down there on Wed, I will call you before to find out what needs to be done next with the current wash. I would offer to pick up the mtls needed, but with my day job, its awfully tough for me to get to the places to make those purchases before they close. Can anyone on this e-mail list make these purchases happen this week?.. Thanks Pete _____ From: Zac Imboden [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:52 AM To: Kramer, Peter; GoBiodiesel Mixmasters Cc: Felix Kersting; Brian Jamison; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wheelerk-/[email protected]">wheelerk-/[email protected]</a> Subject: Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B Jeff came down yesterday. He unloaded 5 more barrels of fuel and we loaded up 5 barrels of WVO. Washing ---------------- Things are going slow. Our wash recirculation is not working properly, which means we have to use fresh water for every pass. The recirculation will successfully recirculate wash water from the wash tote bottom to the sprayer for about 5-10 minutes, before bits of fuel start emulsifying. Felix and I are going to put a rheostat on the pump (thanks Zan for the tip!) and slow it down a bit and see if that let's us recirculate for longer. I've gone through 6 washes now on our first 100 gallons. I'm using our old friend, phenolphthalein, as a rough indicator. Other ideas on ascertaining when the wash water is neutral? Maybe someone could pick up some pH tests. Needs --------- Wash Duty: We need washers, people to come down and wash fuel. It's our most important need. 2nd wash tote: If we want to have any hope of keeping up with Jeff, we need to set up a second wash tote. Need some people to come down and plumb that up. Hoses: I asked Gary about getting 60 feet of hose and 3 sets of camlock connectors. Felix wants me to amend that request to 3 males and 6 females. We have three hoses that are leaking now. Water Heater: We need to get a second water heater online to handle the voracious appetite of our wash tote (since it is finnicky about recirculation). It's hard to do repeated washes quickly when I go through 50 gallons and then have to refill our single water heater and wait for it to heat up. Brian, I talked to Jeff about doing a prewash. He would need to pump his reacted fuel to a settling tank to have room to add 5% water. Currently his reactor is totally full when he reacts and there is no room for adding water. Doing a 5% prewash will accomplish two important things: 1) It will make the propensity for emulsification of fuel in our washes drop dramatically, as it gets rid of a significant portion of lye in advance. 2) It will cut our number of washes needed per batch in half (at the very least), which speeds up the time it takes us to wash. If you can talk Jeff into doing a prewash, it would be the most impactive thing we can do for our wash process. (and I know you can talk anyone into anything). On May 21, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Kramer, Peter wrote: Zac/Kevin and others, How did it go this wknd? Was oil moved around? As you all may have already found out, Jeff would like to keep those white barrels he brings the fuel in, clean and just leave them empty for him to pick up next time he comes so we keep using the same barrels for biod. Note, he also recommended that when we are emptying the biod into our wash, be sure to keep an eye on what we are pumping out as there could be some unwanted by-product that settles to the bottom. Maybe we just make it a practice to leave the bottom inch of fuel in each barrel. That was the reason he drops off on Mon; give us some settling time before transfer into wash. Is anyone have time to be down at site during the week? I might be able to carve out a night. Wed is looking the best for me. Let me know if you can make it. Pete _____ From: Zac Imboden [ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><mailto:[email protected]></a> ] Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 12:42 AM To: Kramer, Peter Cc: Felix Kersting; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org">jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org"><mailto:jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org></a> ; Brian Jamison; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><mailto:[email protected]></a> ; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><mailto:[email protected]></a> ; kkruse; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wheelerk-/[email protected]">wheelerk-/[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wheelerk-/[email protected]"><mailto:wheelerk-/[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: GoBioD Oil-Fuel Transfer with Jeff B Thanks for organizing this Pete. I talked to Felix tonight, mostly about wash particulars. I will be down on site on Sunday morning. Anyone that wants to come down then can help fill up oil barrels. I *think* we have enough barrels to accommodate Jeff's request. Jeff, We will need you to bring back the empty barrels so we can refill them. On May 18, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Kramer, Peter wrote: Just talked with Jeff to work out the details for oil/fuel transfer. Jeff would really like to minimize his time on site, so him coming down with a tote and pumping WVO into it is just not a practical method. So, what he has requested is that we have (5) 55 gal barrels of WVO filled and set aside for him every Mon morning. He will come down, pick those up and drop off (5) 55 gal barrels of raw (unwashed) biod. Jeff said he will pick up ANY WVO, regardless of what state its in! He will come down sometime soon to assess our really thick, bottom sludge, but he has confidence he can pick that up. With our excess stock, Jeff is willing to take ~(9) 55 gal barrels this next time to help us clean up / organize our site. First order of business is give him ANY barrels that have WVO in them and the totes along the fence. Jeff will have to help us out in emptying those sludge totes (maybe help with some type of heating). While our focus has to remain on washing/drying, we have to deal with this initial effort of oil consolidation for Jeff. I am not around this wknd; can anyone help organize a couple people to do this oil transfer? (Not Zac, Felix or anyone else who is familiar with wash; you have to stay on wash duty!) If so, but not sure what oil to get or where it is, please feel free to call me anytime and I can get back to you. My cell: 503-704-4555. Thanks Pete Peter Kramer, LEED(r) AP BAS Sales Engineer TRANEOREGON 503-620-8031 DIR 503-431-2541 | FAX 503-639-1454 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><mailto:[email protected]></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\tsptl141\Application%20Data\Microsoft\Signatures\www.TraneOregon.com"><file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\tsptl141\Application%20Data \Microsoft \Signatures\www.TraneOregon.com></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.TraneOregon.com">www.TraneOregon.com</a> -------------------------------------------------------------- Zac Imboden <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><mailto:[email protected]></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> 1534 SE 35th Place Portland, OR 97214 971-563-2477 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zac Imboden <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><mailto:[email protected]></a> 1534 SE 35th Place Portland, OR 97214 971-563-2477 <winmail.dat> </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> -------------------------------------------------------------- Zac Imboden <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> 1534 SE 35th Place Portland, OR 97214 971-563-2477 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ mixmasters mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters">http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters</a> End of mixmasters Digest, Vol 39, Issue 7 ***************************************** </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------010908020707050702080402-- --===============1053261020== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mixmasters mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters --===============1053261020==--