RE: mixmasters Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7

"Bill Dodds" <[email protected]> Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:17:30 +0000
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<P>Zac,<BR>Tom T. and I emptied the distribution tote into a clean 'black' 55 Gal barrel located next to the conex and the distribution tote.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Marked with&nbsp;a Rob Bradding sticker.&nbsp;(That stuff is the batch you said was not processed completely)</P>
<P>Next time sun brake fuel comes they should take it with them, if thats your agreement?&nbsp; They must have delivered some more processed fuel, so theirs plenty to do.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; </P>
<P>Next we refilled the Distribution tote with 110 gals of clean good fuel.&nbsp; I PH'ed it and did the heat test with good resuilts on this batch.</P>
<P>we started to wash the batch in the&nbsp;washer and it still needs another wash.&nbsp; Thats the way we left it.&nbsp; If someone wants to go down this saturday, they could finish that batch and dry it.&nbsp; </P>
<P>Cat needs food!<IMG height=19 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/i.p.emsmile.gif" width=19>&nbsp; Bill Dodds</P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>mixmasters-request-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org</I><BR>Reply-To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>[email protected]</I><BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>[email protected]</I><BR>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>mixmasters Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7</I><BR>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:15:10 -0700 (PDT)</I><BR>&gt;Send mixmasters mailing list submissions to<BR>&gt; [email protected]<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>&gt; http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters<BR>&gt;or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>&gt; mixmasters-request-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>&gt; mixmasters-owner-qjLDD68F18PzqnJmKJVjZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>&gt;than "Re: Contents of mixmasters 
digest..."<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Today's Topics:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1. Washed Fuel ... (Jeff Brandt)<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2. Re: Washed Fuel ... (Zac Imboden)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Message: 1<BR>&gt;Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:13:25 -0700<BR>&gt;From: "Jeff Brandt" &lt;jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org&gt;<BR>&gt;Subject: [mixmasters] Washed Fuel ...<BR>&gt;To: "GoBiodiesel Mixmasters" &lt;[email protected]&gt;<BR>&gt;Message-ID:<BR>&gt; &lt;148f83260707161213i6e07af02s52d9bb208decd018-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org&gt;<BR>&gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;We will be attending Solwest at the end of this month and we will be<BR>&gt;donating some fuel for their silent auction.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I have committed to donating 35 gallons of Sun 
Break 100 ...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;When would I be able to get 35 gallons of washed and dried fuel from the co-op?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;We also have 550 gallons to deliver to the co-op site. You might want<BR>&gt;to keep these barrels separate as this fuel has received the pre-wash<BR>&gt;treatment that you requested. I'm very curious to see if this improves<BR>&gt;your wash times. The downside to the pre-wash seems to be the glycerol<BR>&gt;separation time. Previously the glycerol would completely fall out in<BR>&gt;a couple of hours with 12 hours being overkill. After the pre-wash<BR>&gt;treatment it has been taking almost 24 hours to get a clean<BR>&gt;separation.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I thought people also might want to know what the current totals are ...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Batch #1, 267 gallons, 3.5g base, sunbreak oil<BR>&gt;Batch #2, 275 gallons, 3.5g base, sunbreak oil<BR>&gt;Batch #3, 275 gallons, 
3.5g base, sunbreak oil<BR>&gt;Batch #4, 275 gallons, 3.5g base, co-op oil<BR>&gt;Batch #5, 275 gallons, 3.5g base, co-op oil<BR>&gt;Batch #6, 275 gallons, 5.0g base, co-op oil<BR>&gt;Batch #7, ??? gallons, problem batch, set aside for later, co-op oil<BR>&gt;Batch #8, 270 gallons, 5.0g base, 5% pre-wash, co-op oil<BR>&gt;Batch #9, 265 gallons, 5.0g base, 5% pre-wash, co-op oil<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;You will notice that batches #2 through #6 all have 275 gallons which<BR>&gt;shouldn't be possible. The yield was close to 265-268 gallons however<BR>&gt;we have recovered alot of biodiesel from our glycerol barrels and<BR>&gt;topped off the partial barrel to fully utilize our trip to the co-op.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;We have used 9 barrels of methanol, 146 lbs of lye and 576 kWh's of electricity.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;The co-op has supplied 2 barrels of methanol.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;At some point Sun Break Biofuels 
needs to collect 800+ gallons of<BR>&gt;washed biodiesel, although I'm a patient person and believe the co-op<BR>&gt;members deserve first right.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;We have successfully processed around 2200 gallons of biodiesel. About<BR>&gt;1400 gallons for the co-op and another 800 gallons for Sun Break.<BR>&gt;There was another batch that didn't work out so well, but we will fix<BR>&gt;that at a later date.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Processing costs should work out well since Sun Break will owe the<BR>&gt;co-op approx $400 for fuel washing services, plus our membership fee<BR>&gt;will be subtracted and in addition the total overhead was reduced<BR>&gt;since the co-op provided 2 out of the 5 barrels of methanol we used<BR>&gt;for processing.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;--<BR>&gt;Jeff Brandt<BR>&gt;Sun Break Biofuels, 
LLC<BR>&gt;mailto:jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;------------------------------<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Message: 2<BR>&gt;Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:05:17 -0600<BR>&gt;From: Zac Imboden &lt;[email protected]&gt;<BR>&gt;Subject: Re: [mixmasters] Washed Fuel ...<BR>&gt;To: GoBiodiesel Mixmasters &lt;[email protected]&gt;<BR>&gt;Message-ID: &lt;CD680CCC-5B34-4252-B778-CD917E51385A-aZ6PXv3Ip8kQwY+2splSUA@public.gmane.org&gt;<BR>&gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Jeff,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Thanks for the updates. We are having a training meeting tonight and<BR>&gt;expect a large turn-out. We will certainly have more than 35 gallons<BR>&gt;washed and dried by the end of this month, however, I'm not sure what<BR>&gt;the quality will be. Do you want fuel if it doesn't pass 3/27?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;We need to start tagging the barrels with batch 
#s anyway, so we can<BR>&gt;track them. So we can tag the new barrels with "prewash".<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Maybe I'll give you a call.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;On Jul 16, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Jeff Brandt wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; We will be attending Solwest at the end of this month and we will be<BR>&gt; &gt; donating some fuel for their silent auction.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I have committed to donating 35 gallons of Sun Break 100 ...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; When would I be able to get 35 gallons of washed and dried fuel<BR>&gt; &gt; from the co-op?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; We also have 550 gallons to deliver to the co-op site. You might want<BR>&gt; &gt; to keep these barrels separate as this fuel has received the pre-wash<BR>&gt; &gt; treatment that you requested. I'm very curious to see if this improves<BR>&gt; &gt; your wash times. The downside to the pre-wash seems to be the 
glycerol<BR>&gt; &gt; separation time. Previously the glycerol would completely fall out in<BR>&gt; &gt; a couple of hours with 12 hours being overkill. After the pre-wash<BR>&gt; &gt; treatment it has been taking almost 24 hours to get a clean<BR>&gt; &gt; separation.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I thought people also might want to know what the current totals<BR>&gt; &gt; are ...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #1, 267 gallons, 3.5g base, sunbreak oil<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #2, 275 gallons, 3.5g base, sunbreak oil<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #3, 275 gallons, 3.5g base, sunbreak oil<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #4, 275 gallons, 3.5g base, co-op oil<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #5, 275 gallons, 3.5g base, co-op oil<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #6, 275 gallons, 5.0g base, co-op oil<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #7, ??? gallons, problem batch, set aside for later, co-op oil<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #8, 270 gallons, 5.0g base, 5% pre-wash, co-op 
oil<BR>&gt; &gt; Batch #9, 265 gallons, 5.0g base, 5% pre-wash, co-op oil<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; You will notice that batches #2 through #6 all have 275 gallons which<BR>&gt; &gt; shouldn't be possible. The yield was close to 265-268 gallons however<BR>&gt; &gt; we have recovered alot of biodiesel from our glycerol barrels and<BR>&gt; &gt; topped off the partial barrel to fully utilize our trip to the co-op.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; We have used 9 barrels of methanol, 146 lbs of lye and 576 kWh's of<BR>&gt; &gt; electricity.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; The co-op has supplied 2 barrels of methanol.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; At some point Sun Break Biofuels needs to collect 800+ gallons of<BR>&gt; &gt; washed biodiesel, although I'm a patient person and believe the co-op<BR>&gt; &gt; members deserve first right.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; We have successfully processed around 2200 gallons
  
of biodiesel. About<BR>&gt; &gt; 1400 gallons for the co-op and another 800 gallons for Sun Break.<BR>&gt; &gt; There was another batch that didn't work out so well, but we will fix<BR>&gt; &gt; that at a later date.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Processing costs should work out well since Sun Break will owe the<BR>&gt; &gt; co-op approx $400 for fuel washing services, plus our membership fee<BR>&gt; &gt; will be subtracted and in addition the total overhead was reduced<BR>&gt; &gt; since the co-op provided 2 out of the 5 barrels of methanol we used<BR>&gt; &gt; for processing.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; --<BR>&gt; &gt; Jeff Brandt<BR>&gt; &gt; Sun Break Biofuels, LLC<BR>&gt; &gt; mailto:jeffb-hD0ojMJ1hjDksvZKaRJZc1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org<BR>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; mixmasters mailing list<BR>&gt; &gt; [email protected]<BR>&gt; &gt; 
http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt;Zac Imboden<BR>&gt;[email protected]<BR>&gt;6355 North Burrage Ave<BR>&gt;Portland, OR<BR>&gt;97217<BR>&gt;971-563-2477<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;------------------------------<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;_______________________________________________<BR>&gt;mixmasters mailing list<BR>&gt;[email protected]<BR>&gt;http://lists.gobiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/mixmasters<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;End of mixmasters Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7<BR>&gt;*****************************************<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></div></html>


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