Re: Carma does not accumulate

I better attend that board meeting next Wednesday. It sounds  
complicated.

On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Brian Jamison wrote:

> On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 22:16 -0700, Zac Imboden wrote:
>> I read this in the FAQ section of our site:
>
> It's great you are going through the site like this, Zac.
>
>> "Use it or lose it. Carma does not accumulate."
>>
>> That's a bit vague. Do Carma points expire? If so, when? I'm assuming
>> this means if you don't work and lose your membership privileges, you
>> also lose any outstanding carma points. Is this correct?
>
> The board will be discussing the carma system at next Wednesday's
> meeting.  I will send this to the announce list as well.  All members
> are encouraged to attend the board meeting or submit their comments
> before Wednesday by emailing me, posting to the general list, or  
> editing
> the board agenda.
>
> Here is what we will be discussing this Wednesday:
>
> Old carma-
> Members must submit good faith estimates of hours worked at the co- 
> op in
> months (or years) past into carma tracker by 12/15/06.  A member  
> may use
> old carma to buy co-op biodiesel, subject to availability, etc.
>
> I'd also like to discuss capping the use of old carma to half of a
> member's allocation.  Right now 16 gallons every two weeks is the max
> any member can buy.  I think it is fair to allow up to half of that (8
> gallons) to be bought using old carma. This is in the spirit of a
> decision previously agreed upon.
>
> In further respect to those that have given so much time to the co- 
> op in
> months and years past, I propose that we do not expire old carma.
>
> New carma-
> New carma must be entered within 15 days of working.  New carma points
> should expire within 45 days if not used. Here is the reasoning:
> 1) We produce a limited amount of fuel
> 2) We use all the fuel we produce
> 3) The value of carma is directly related to how much we produce
> 4) We should be working just enough to keep our vehicles fueled
>
> Oil carma-
> If we value all work equally our system is both simple and fair.  One
> exception to this /might/ be oil collection.  Should oil collectors
> should get carma based on the amount of oil they drop off instead of
> time spent collecting?  If so, perhaps 1:2.5 is a reasonable ratio - 1
> jug = 2 carma points.
>
> Carma ratio-
> We need to determine a fair value for carma.  Since the number of  
> hours
> worked as well as production will vary from month to month, the  
> ratio of
> carma to gallons must be dynamic.
>
> I propose we calculate the value of carma based on the last 30 days of
> production divided by the last 30 days of total co-op carma, rounded
> down to the nearest whole number.  So if we produced 450 gallons of
> biodiesel and a total of 200 hours of carma were logged in the last 30
> days, 1 point of carma would equal 2 gallons.
>
>> If this is correct, I could update the site to be a little more
>> specific.
>
> Sure.  We'll probably want to expand that section after the board
> meeting next week.
>
> -B
> -- 
> Brian Jamison
> President, Board of Directors
> GoBiodiesel Cooperative
>
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