Re: Re: [siteplan] Focus on removing concrete and blackberries

The main thing I would like to suggest is that the
concrete be physically move/handeled *by people* as
little as possible, preferably only once (well never,
but it doesn't sound like there is a Bobcat available
to pick it up). By that I mean loaded into a dump
truck or dump trailer so that it doesn't have to be
unloaded one piece at a time, as I did 2 weeks ago. If
a those vehicles are not available, then I suggest
putting some sort of rope (tied to boards or a net
or?) or something in the truck or trailer *prior* to
loading the concrete so that the rope can be tied to
something steady and the vehicle driven away and the
load is pulled out instead of unloaded, if that isn't
possible then I would suggest loading it on pallets on
a concrete drive or something and only using *labor*
to unload as a last resort. I love pallets because
thay are easy to move compared to moving loose broken
concrete. Anyhow, that is my opinion. I will try to
show up but my partner is complaining and wants me to
work on our project tomorow ... so I will try to
convince her that working at the biodiesel coop is the
best thing to do ;-)
Shody 

--- Zac Imboden <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think a pallet is going to roll across our
> mixture of gravel,  
> dirt and grass, especially with a heavy load.
> 
> I called The Wall (Felix's suggestion) but they
> aren't taking  
> concrete and recommended Portland Sand & Gravel.
> They are closed on  
> Saturdays in the winter, but I think they take
> concrete. I don't know  
> if they charge for large volumes.
> 
> I'm not sure what the final decision was on the
> concrete, but my vote  
> is to load it up and haul it either to a place like
> Portland Sand &  
> Gravel or to the dump.
> 
> But please come down tomorrow. You'll need to sign a
> waiver to work  
> on-site. I don't know about your helpers. I'm
> thinking that might be  
> a good idea, ie I'm not sure you can sign a waiver
> and not join, but  
> I just don't know the answer. We should have other
> people down there,  
> so we'll have plenty of hands on hand, I think.
> 
> On Oct 6, 2006, at 3:50 PM, Shody Ryon wrote:
> 
> > I would like to bring a couple of helpers (that
> will
> > contribute towards my hours, is that allowed?) to
> pull
> > black berries, if I can get it together to get
> there
> > tomorrow. I have a truck with a lift gate that can
> > lift 2500 lbs. If the concrete can be put on
> pallets
> > (I did this a few weeks ago, and it works, just
> pile
> > it only 3 or 4 courses high) and a pallet jack can
> be
> > barrowed (for my delivery also), I will deliver
> it. if
> > the concrete is palletized, have it stacked in a
> place
> > where a pallet jack can roll, i.e. fairly flat
> > concrete floor, sidewalk, driveway, etc.
> > I haven't joined yet but I will like join
> tomorrow.
> > Shody
> >
> > --- Zac Imboden <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Who was it who offered to haul it away again? I
> will
> >> call The Wall
> >> tomorrow. Funny. I had never heard of them, but
> >> after you mentioned
> >> them, they started a wall right next to the cafe
> I
> >> go to.
> >>
> >> And anyone who comes down on Saturday should
> bring
> >> something to pull
> >> out those blackberries by their roots.
> >>
> >> That leaves the wood? What's the plan with that?
> >> Again, Saturday
> >> would be a great day to come down and clean and
> chop
> >> and remove, as
> >> long as we have someone to haul.
> >>
> >> On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Felix Kersting
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Friends,
> >>>
> >>> Zack asked yesterday if there was a reason for
> the
> >> focus on
> >>> removing the piles of concrete and wood and
> >> blackberries.
> >>>
> >>> The focus is/was because Brian and The Coop
> >> received a letter on
> >>> 9/22 from the City of Milwaukie regarding rat
> >> harborage.  The
> >>> stacks of concrete and brush  are considered rat
> >> harborage and the
> >>> city requested that we remove them in 30 days.
> >> That time has come
> >>> and gone.
> >>> I assumed this had been discussed at the general
> >> meeting - forgive
> >>> me if it is old news.
> >>>
> >>> Site planning has to do with the long-term plan
> >> and development of
> >>> the site and I am involved as an offshoot of
> >> processor design, my
> >>> main focus.
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like a lot of this has taken place and a
> >> hearty "thanks" to
> >>> all who participated.
> >>>
> >>> Felix
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >
>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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> >> Portland, OR
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> >>
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