Re: RE: pdx-biodiesel Digest, Vol 59, Issue 4

Thanks for the feedback on this.  With the web you can
never be sure.  I look at most of the things I read as
being like reading a rumor.  Its usually at least PART
true but you have a hard time sorting out which parts.
Thanks for the feedback.




                                 Mark Gerbozy


--- Mark Darula <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ultrasound for Biodiesel production is no scam.=20
> Large scale application is
> a different story. =20
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> Here are some excellent video from you tube.
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> Ultrasonic BioDiesel Wash=20
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dhj5Ks3hXwLg&feature=3Drelated
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> Ultrasonic Transesterfication
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdgEYMeWN7Ko
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> SRR Ultrasonic Reactor=20
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFGT_j4jQR3g&feature=3Drelated
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> Ultrasonic Emulsifying of Oil in Water=20
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dv8qHKwiBvhI&feature=3Drelated
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> Mark Darula
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sunsetpdxbiodiesel/
> West side (Sunset area) Portland, Oregon Biodiesel
> discussion group
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> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:22:41 -0800
> From: Felix Kersting <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [pdx-biodiesel] Ultrasound
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> I haven't heard of it, but I know there are issues
> with ultrasonic=20
> radiation - don't want to get too much.  also, look
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> is involved to generate and focus ultrasound.  there
> are lots of ways to=20
> put too much energy into the process and get a
> negative return (kinda=20
> like corn ethanol!).
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> Felix
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> shayde wrote:
> > I've noticed some web sites that are touting using
> > ultrasound to mix biodiesel.  Does anyone know if
> this
> > is legit or just some biodiesel scam?  Seems like
> the
> > sound waves could be the ultimate mixer but could
> also
> > just the usual internet scam.
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> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:30:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ian Hoff <[email protected]>
> Subject: [pdx-biodiesel] Re:ultrasound
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> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:42:09 -0800 (PST)
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> Subject: [pdx-biodiesel] Ultrasound
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> I've noticed some web sites that are touting using
> ultrasound to mix biodiesel. Does anyone know if
> this
> is legit or just some biodiesel scam? Seems like the
> sound waves could be the ultimate mixer but could
> also
> just the usual internet scam.
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> Mark G.
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>   Stolen from a website
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>   Alfred L. Loomis noticed the first chemical
> effects of ultrasound in 1927,
> but the field of sonochemistry lay fallow for nearly
> 60 years. The
> renaissance of sonochemistry occurred in the 1980's,
> soon after the advent
> of inexpensive and reliable laboratory generators of
> high-intensity
> ultrasound.
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>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonochemistry
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