Re: bio diesel surplus

Brian, 

What a great problem to have!  Too much bio-d.  I would be very interested in coming by to see the fuel.  I am open to working out a fair price.  This would also fit within the new biod coop model we are starting.  We can talk more about that too in person.  

Let me know when a good time to meet is.  Evenings or weekends only work for me.  Feel free to call me on my cell as its the best way to get a hold of me; 503-704-4555.

Pete


----- Original Message ----
From: Brian Smithers <[email protected]>
To: General Biodiesel discussion <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2008 8:08:56 PM
Subject: Re: [pdx-biodiesel] First time making bio diesel

Hello all,

I have been making biodiesel for a number of years and now have a significant surplus of fuel.  Since it is now clear that I am making more than I am using, I am looking to unload some of my surplus.  If you are interested in some biodiesel, I would love to pass it on to you and perhaps we can figure out a fair price along the way.  Feel free to e-mail me at [email protected] or give me a call at 503-781-1117.  The fuel is very good-quality and I can tell you plenty more about it if you are interested.

Cheers,
Brian

----- Original Message ----
From: Jeff Brandt <[email protected]>
To: General Biodiesel discussion <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 10:28:51 PM
Subject: Re: [pdx-biodiesel] First time making bio diesel

On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 AM, John Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jeff
> Thanks for the feelback.  I have the yellow botttle of Heat.  What is IPA?
> I have put the washed product in my freezer and will get rid of the foam.
> Is washing the only way to test to see if I have made good boi diesel?
> John



I'm sorry, I did some checking and it appears my statement was
incorrect about the bottle colors. I had it backwards, and IPA means
isopropyl alcohol.

Although it should be possible to make fatty acid isopropyl ester,
where as normal biodiesel is a fatty acid methyl ester. You can know
for sure by seeing if the label on the bottle says HEET or IsoHEET.

Although it looks from your results that the reaction only went to
about 65% based on the amount of glycerol that fell out.

There is a test that determines your reaction completion known as the
3/27 test.

You mix 3ml of your biodiesel with 27ml of methanol, shake it up, let
it sit for 5 minutes or so and check if you can see any precipitate on
the bottom. Cloudy is fine as long as it doesn't settle to the bottom.

The methanol absorbs the biodiesel, but not the oil. So if you have
good biodiesel, nothing should fall to the bottom.

I have been told that the HEET is not pure methanol and if the
impurity is water then this would definitely cut the biodiesel
reaction short. Water will cause the reaction to halt part way
through. A little water is inevitable as mixing the methanol with
potash or lye was make water as it reacts. So it is really important
that you start with very dry oil and very dry methanol.

The methanol typically used is 99.8% pure.

--
Jeff Brandt
Sun Break Biofuels, LLC
http://www.sunbreakbiofuels.com
mailto:[email protected]
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