RE: bio diesel surplus

Maybe we can connect this week. I was out of town for a memorial service. C=
an we try after tues or weds? Thanks, Nick> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:33:17 =
-0800> From: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [pdx-biodiesel] bio di=
esel surplus> To: [email protected]> > Pete,> > I am arou=
nd tomorrow after about 11:00am if you want to come by and check it out. Th=
e fuel in my barrel should be ungelled by now with the warmer temps. (It ha=
d gelled up pretty well with the colder temperatures before.) Anyway, you c=
ould call me at 503-781-1117 after 11:00am tomorrow and come on by. My hous=
e is at 1530 N Church St.> > Brian> > ----- Original Message ----> From: Pe=
te Kramer <[email protected]>> To: General Biodiesel discussion <pdx-b=
[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2008 11:34:11 =
AM> Subject: Re: [pdx-biodiesel] bio diesel surplus> > Brian, > > What a gr=
eat problem to have! Too much bio-d. I would be very interested in coming b=
y to see the fuel. I am open to working out a fair price. This would also f=
it within the new biod coop model we are starting. We can talk more about t=
hat too in person. > > Let me know when a good time to meet is. Evenings or=
 weekends only work for me. Feel free to call me on my cell as its the best=
 way to get a hold of me; 503-704-4555.> > Pete> > > ----- Original Message=
 ----> From: Brian Smithers <[email protected]>> To: General Biodie=
sel discussion <[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, Februar=
y 8, 2008 8:08:56 PM> Subject: Re: [pdx-biodiesel] First time making bio di=
esel> > Hello all,> > I have been making biodiesel for a number of years an=
d now have a significant surplus of fuel. Since it is now clear that I am m=
aking more than I am using, I am looking to unload some of my surplus. If y=
ou are interested in some biodiesel, I would love to pass it on to you and =
perhaps we can figure out a fair price along the way. Feel free to e-mail m=
e at [email protected] or give me a call at 503-781-1117. The fuel =
is very good-quality and I can tell you plenty more about it if you are int=
erested.> > Cheers,> Brian> > ----- Original Message ----> From: Jeff Brand=
t <[email protected]>> To: General Biodiesel discussion <pdx-biodiesel@li=
sts.gobiodiesel.org>> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 10:28:51 PM> Subject=
: Re: [pdx-biodiesel] First time making bio diesel> > On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 A=
M, John Harris <[email protected]> wrote:> > Jeff> > Thanks for th=
e feelback. I have the yellow botttle of Heat. What is IPA?> > I have put t=
he washed product in my freezer and will get rid of the foam.> > Is washing=
 the only way to test to see if I have made good boi diesel?> > John> > > >=
 I'm sorry, I did some checking and it appears my statement was> incorrect =
about the bottle colors. I had it backwards, and IPA means> isopropyl alcoh=
ol.> > Although it should be possible to make fatty acid isopropyl ester,> =
where as normal biodiesel is a fatty acid methyl ester. You can know> for s=
ure by seeing if the label on the bottle says HEET or IsoHEET.> > Although =
it looks from your results that the reaction only went to> about 65% based =
on the amount of glycerol that fell out.> > There is a test that determines=
 your reaction completion known as the> 3/27 test.> > You mix 3ml of your b=
iodiesel with 27ml of methanol, shake it up, let> it sit for 5 minutes or s=
o and check if you can see any precipitate on> the bottom. Cloudy is fine a=
s long as it doesn't settle to the bottom.> > The methanol absorbs the biod=
iesel, but not the oil. So if you have> good biodiesel, nothing should fall=
 to the bottom.> > I have been told that the HEET is not pure methanol and =
if the> impurity is water then this would definitely cut the biodiesel> rea=
ction short. Water will cause the reaction to halt part way> through. A lit=
tle water is inevitable as mixing the methanol with> potash or lye was make=
 water as it reacts. So it is really important> that you start with very dr=
y oil and very dry methanol.> > The methanol typically used is 99.8% pure.>=
 > --> Jeff Brandt> Sun Break Biofuels, LLC> http://www.sunbreakbiofuels.co=
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