IBM, Microsoft, BEA Snub W3C
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(Forwarded from Kernel Panic Users Group) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FWD: IBM, Microsoft, BEA Snub W3C Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 16:42:03 -0400 From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>,<[email protected]>,<[email protected]> This story has been sent to you by: [email protected]. Message from [email protected]: BEA Systems, IBM and Microsoft on Wednesday submitted a major standard proposal for Web services to OASIS, snubbing similar work underway at the Worldwide Web Consortium (W3C). Dispute is over BPEL (Business process execution language) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ This article is from CRN (http://www.crn.com/). This article may be viewed online at: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ <beginstory> IBM, Microsoft, BEA Snub W3C By Antone Gonsalves, <i>TechWeb</i><BR> 10:04 AM EST Thurs., Apr. 17, 2003 BEA Systems, IBM and Microsoft on Wednesday submitted a major standard proposal for Web services to OASIS, snubbing similar work underway at the Worldwide Web Consortium (W3C). The trio, all major players in the development of Web services standards, submitted a specification for Business Process Execution Language, or BPEL, which was co-authored by SAP and Siebel Systems. Twenty other businesses have signed on as co-submitters, and OASIS (Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards) has started the process of forming a technical committee to develop the spec, Microsoft and IBM executives said. BPEL is a specification for orchestrating multiple Web services in automating a complex business process between companies. To foster wide-scale adoption of Web services among ISVs and enterprises, proponents need to deliver standards for orchestration, security and management, analysts say. Studies have shown that specifications developed through standards bodies are adopted more often by enterprises than vendor-centric technology. "This is a very good step for everyone," said Ronald Schmelzer, an analyst at high-tech research firm ZapThink. "Now that BPEL has gone to OASIS, people are going to flock to it." Indeed, what's unclear is the effect the submission will have on similar work underway by the W3C. With BPEL, OASIS will have work underway in all three major areas of Web services development. "The message is really starting to gel," Schmelzer said. "Oasis and the WS-I are going to become two of the most influential organizations in setting Web services standards." WS-I, or the Web Services Interoperability Organization, is a vendor group developing specifications for ensuring that Web services-enabled products are able to work together without significant changes. In January, the W3C created a Web services working group that includes high-powered IT vendors Hewlett-Packard, Oracle and Sun Microsystems. W3C officials could not say whether their work would overlap or complement OASIS' effort, because they had not seen the charter that would govern the work of the latter group's technical committee. All of the BPEL authors, however, are members of the W3C. The standards body couldn't understand why OASIS was chosen. "I would be hard pressed to give a reason why organizations dedicated to getting Web services out the door don't commit to an open way to do their work--having proposals reviewed, having specifications reviewed and having ways to deal with interoperability requirements," said Janet Daly, spokeswoman for W3C. Executives at IBM and Microsoft said OASIS was chosen because the organization is more focused on technical issues related to automating business processes, whereas the W3C is more directed at lower-level infrastructure technology related to Web services, such as SOAP. "This kind of business process issue is something that the membership of OASIS is well suited to provide input to and help to drive," said Karla Norsworthy, director of dynamic e-business technologies at IBM. "We're hopeful that the efforts are complementary, and we'll work with the industry to drive in that direction." But vendors tend to have different perceptions of the W3C and OASIS, Schmelzer said. While the former is seen as having rigorous processes and standards for creating and releasing specifications, the latter is perceived as more lax and less controlled about what's released. "What's needed is some sort of agreement about what various groups will handle," Schmelzer said. "If not, we'll continue to find vendors working one standards organization against another to no one's real benefit." <i>This story courtesy of <a href="http://www.techweb.com">Techweb.com</a>.</i> <endstory> ********** COPYRIGHT(C) 1999 CMP MEDIA INC. ********** -- http://www.kernel-panic.org list archives http://www.ultraviolet.org To unsubscribe, send a message to the address shown in the list-unsubscribe header of this message.