Re: Ballmer: DRM is the Future

LOL well precisely
and we've been treated to the entire story while Seth & co. try to get on with 
the job of being DMCA-activists!

angry troll [OT] wroted:
> Jesus Christ ive been on this list for a while now
> And these guys are really pissing me off
> Why don’t they shut the fuck up
> Do they ever think there are people who aint from new york?
> hehe
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> iriXx Sent: 09 May 2003 19:41
> To: A discussion list for digital freedom activists.
> Subject: Re: [DMCA-Activists] Ballmer: DRM is the Future
>
> oh get a life
>
> Ruben I Safir wrote:
> > NYLXS Annoucement from the Poitical Sub-committee and NY Fair Use:
> >
> > The NYLXS Board has elected to change the name of New Yorkers for Fair
> > Use to the New York Association of Copyright Stateholders. The decision
> > to make this change, effect May 2nd is being done for the following
> > resons.
> >
> > First, NYLXS has not been able to come to an agreeable negotiated
> > solution with either Jay Sulzberger or Brett Wynkoop on the matter of
> > their violation of either the NY Fair Use trademark and other trademarks
> > involving NY Fair Use. Nor is NYLXS able to come to a conclussion with
> > the parties on the abuse of our copyright of the materials affiliated
> > with NY Fair Use which we have inherited.
> >
> > Secondly, the members of NY Fair Use Inc, which was founded in in
> > Febrary of 2003 and which has had their first meetings this last month,
> > have done extreme damage to the efforts of NY Fair Use to educate the
> > public on issues in a constructive way. As such, they've done
> > irreputable damage to the NY Fair Use trademark.
> >
> > In order to minimize further errossion of the efforts of NYLXS and NY
> > Fair Use, we've decided to rename the organization NY Fair Use, the
> > original NY Fair use organization as founded by Ruben Safir as early as
> > 1999, in order to clarify more specifically it's mission and its goals,
> > and to seperate us from the inefficient tactics and mistakes being made
> > by Jay Sulzberger and Brett Wynkoop.
> >
> > This announcement is in no way a repudiation of any rights and
> > trademarks that NYLXS legally pocesses to the terms NY Fair Use, DRM is
> > Theft - We are the stateholders, or any of the copyrights that NYLXS
> > rightfully pocess in regards to NY Fair Use. NYLXS is still going to
> > enforce its rights under the law to the origianl trademarks and
> > copyrights.
> >
> > NYLXS would further like to be clear that the behavior of Mr Wynkoop and
> > Mr Sulzberger have been deplorable in this matter from the start. While
> > NYLXS has made several bonofide and reasonable attempts to amiciably
> > settle this dispute, the Members of NY Fair Use have abused our members
> > repeatedly in person, on the phone, on the mailing list and at our
> > meetings. The behavior of both Mr Wynkoop and Mr Sulzberger has been to
> > respond to arbitration on these issues by avoiding such requests and
> > substituting proposes for fair arbitration with blanket threats of
> > secret information which would 'Blow NYLXS UP', and invitation for us to
> > come to their meeting to be abused by them verbally without any fair
> > artitration by an outside authoirty. This has been repeately rejected,
> > especially in light of the 100's of hours that members have had to
> > already endure going over all the excuses and accusations which they've
> > launched at both NY Fair Use, NYLXS and their founder, Ruben Safir.
> >
> > In addition, NYLXS would like to formaly state that while we often
> > disagree with how to allocate resources and tactics in this matter, it
> > is unified in its support of Ruben Safir and his claims. We stand behind
> > this having given a fair hearing to Mr Sulzberger and Mr Wynkoop, and in
> > reviewing the facts of the case through interviews of NY Fair Use
> > members, and through an extenssive review of the written records and
> > archives of the organization which was done in Febrary of 2003. The
> > reports of our investgation, and the original agreements we attempted to
> > use in settling with NY Fair Use, Inc (ie Jay Sulzberger and Brett
> > Wynkoop), can be made available to anyone who asks, as well as their
> > responses.
> >
> > Over the next month, the NY Fair Use website, fairuse.nylxs.com, will be
> > slowly reworked to reflect these changes. For an unspecific time period,
> > NYACSH will be refered to at NYACSH, formly the original NY Fair Use and
> > such other titles.
> >
> > Lastly, NYLXS wished to express that it recents claims by the NY Fair
> > Use, Inc organization that NYLXS in any way ever worked with or
> > co-operated with that NY Fair Use, Inc or any other organization lead by
> > Mr Wynkoop or Mr Sulzberger is false. All efforts in education and
> > representation of the the Government took place with the Original NY
> > Fair Use as founded and headed by Ruben Safir. All claims by NY Fair
> > Use, Inc of our cooperation with them at any time is a misuse of our
> > name and prestige for the glamour of those undeserving of our
> > endorsement. We view it as morally equivilent to rape.
> >
> >
> > Ruben Safir Secretary of NYLXS Chairman of the New York Association of
> > Copyright Stakeholders and sub-committee of NYLXS, Inc Founder of NY
> > Fair Use, and NYLXS
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > [email protected]
> > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dmca-activists

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