Re: [needs proofread & IT translation] Refund4Freedom news item
"Richard L. Schmeidler" <[email protected]> Thu, 29 May 2025 10:36:24 -0400
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At the moment, I am unable to read the revised version of the relevant paragraph at https://git.fsfe.org/FSFE/fsfe-website/pulls/5063 . I fall back onto the original text as cited by Luca in his message that I report below, and his suggestion. ========== Since i have been asked to proofread, and the timing seems right, I make the most minor of suggestions: Add the word "A" at the beginning, so that the revised paragraph starts "A few manufacturers have defined" rather than "Few manufacturers have defined." There is no change in the meaning, and there is nothing wrong with his phrasing, but my suggested version fits a little better with the later text, "But for most others." ========== Here is Luca's message. The time stamp is in terms of my time zone, not his. It is now five hours after this message arrived in my inbox. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Luca Bonissi <[email protected]> Date: Thu, May 29, 2025 at 5:22 AM Subject: [Translators] Re: [needs proofread & IT translation] Refund4Freedom news item To: <[email protected]> Hello all! Sorry for the big delay... maybe I'm arriving too late, but I'd like to highlight a not-so-correct consideration on the second-last paragraph. It says: "Some manufacturers have defined better policies and clearer procedures for requesting and obtaining refunds, as a similar successful case against HP that Luca started in 2019 shows. But for others, consumers are forced to engage in persistent correspondence and, in many cases, take legal action as a last resort." Unfortunately, the case against HP was the worst case, where HP do not have any written procedure and the policy is simply "DENY REFUND"... :-( Also from a legal point of view, it was the worst case becase the Justice Of Peace did not recognise the court fees (about 60 Euros), so at the end I did not practically receive any refund (spent 60 Euros for the court case, received 61 Euros as refund...). And actually only Asus have "better policies and clearer procedures" (they do not ask to send the PC for Product Key removal): all others manufacturer either not have clear procedures or their policies are unfair. So I suggest - if possible - to modify the paragraph in this way (if ok, please, Richard, could you proofread it?): "Few manufacturers have defined better policies and clearer procedures for requesting and obtaining refunds. But for most others, consumers are forced to engage in persistent correspondence and, in many cases, take legal action as a last resort, as the [collection of cases started by Luca] show." [Link to collection]: https://bonissi.it/windowsrefund/ Thanks and sorry again for the delay... Luca [earlier messages snipped] On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 6:48 AM Bonnie Mehring <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hej Luca, > > Thank you for reaching out about this! I have now changed the news item > and implemented your suggestion: > https://git.fsfe.org/FSFE/fsfe-website/pulls/5063 > > Best regards, > Bonnie > > -- > Bonnie Mehring - Project manager - > Free Software Foundation Europe > Schönhauser Allee 6/7, 10119 Berlin, Germany | t +49-30-27595290 > Registered at Amtsgericht Hamburg, VR 17030 |(fsfe.org/support) > > _______________________________________________ > Translators mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > This mailing list is covered by the FSFE's Code of Conduct. All > participants are kindly asked to be excellent to each other: > https://fsfe.org/about/codeofconduct -- "The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine." -- Abraham Lincoln _______________________________________________ Translators mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] This mailing list is covered by the FSFE's Code of Conduct. All participants are kindly asked to be excellent to each other: https://fsfe.org/about/codeofconduct