Re: [needs proofread & translation] July newsletter

Looking at your new webpreview this time, I see something that I must have
missed.  And more.

1.  "The 2025 Youth Hacking 4 Freedom programming period come to an end at
the end of June"  Replace "come" with "came."  English grammar:  the wrong
tense of the verb.

2.  " a panel debate about digital sovereignty through Free Software"  I
suggest replacing "debate" with "discussion."  At least in US usage (and
there isn't time for me to investigate usage elsewhere) a debate is a very
highly structured sort of a discussion, with people formally disagreeing.
It starts being taught in the elementary schools, and it is an intellectual
team sport in high schools and beyond.  Formal debates between candidates
are a regular feature of US election campaigns, both at the Presidential
election level and below.  I very much doubt that there was a panel debate
as you are reporting, with someone arguing forcefully against digital
sovereignty or against Free Software.

I hope that this reaches Ana in time.





On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 3:31 AM Luca Bonissi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Many thanks, Richard!
>
> Converted .odt in simple text file (attached), and updated accordingly
> https://webpreview.fsfe.org/?pad=1494
>
> Luca
>
> On 08/07/25 06:44, Richard L. Schmeidler wrote:
> > Thank you, Luca, for your speedy and helpful work on my proofreading.
> >
> > I have taken your .xhtml attachment, and I now see -- and I hope that I
> > will remember -- that at least on the notebook running Microsoft Windows
> > (ugh!) that I am using away from home I can use LibreOffice to see it
> > fully displayed.  I find the fully displayed version much more
> > comfortable to proofread, and it may actually help me to find more
> > suggestions to make when I am not spending much of my time ignoring the
> > markup language.
> >
> > So I am proofreading using LibreOffice.  I am also attaching my .odt
> > version of that file that reflects the suggestions I am now making.
> >
> > I am not using the webpreview that you also so kindly sent.  That is
> > inherently a moving target, and I do not have the time in the middle of
> > my night to deal with moving target issues.  I will be spending enough
> > time first responding to you and then proofreading.
> >
> > My responses to what you wrote are interspersed, below my new
> suggestions.
> >
> > 1.  "Learn more about the latest developments surrounding the Digital
> > Markets Act and take a few minutes to share your perspective in our
> > Interoperability Survey, and listen to the newest episode of our
> > podcast."   Replace the first occurrence of "and" (after "Act") with a
> > comma.  This is the normal way to punctuate a list of three items.  I
> > can see no reason for abnormality here, although deliberate abnormality
> > can be desirable.
> >
> > 2.  Table of Contents:  "From the stages to your screen: videos from the
> > last conferences"  I suggest replacing "last" with "latest."  If these
> > were the last conferences ever to be held, "last" would be correct.
> > Since we all hope that there will be more, I think that "latest" is
> > better, although in this specific case "last" is not incorrect.  My #4,
> > below, is consistent with this suggestion.  (I regularly suggest
> > replacing "last" with "latest."  English usage is inconsistent.  We do
> > say "last Wednesday" and "last year."  To quote the analysis of "last/
> > latest" in the fourth edition of Fowler's Modern English Usage [2015],
> > "It is obvious, therefore, that if there is any danger of contextual
> > ambiguity some word other than /last /should be used."  Here, ambiguity
> > is not really a problem, but I still prefer "latest.")
> >
> > If you have read this far, let me make an offer that I have made
> > occasionally to the FSFE translators.  I will be delighted to send any
> > of you a copy of this valuable reference work if you will send me your
> > address.  I find it sufficiently useful -- as in this instance -- that I
> > brought one of my copies along on a five-week vacation trip because I
> > expected to do some proofreading for the FSFE.
> >
> > 3.  This is not an issue in the text of the newsletter, but in the
> > markup language.  "in Danish in<br/>both the book and the movie."  The
> > "<br/>" should be replaced by a text space.  I do not know where the
> > "<br/>" comes from, or what it means.
> >
> > 4.  Heading:  "From the stages to your screen: videos from the last
> > conferences" I suggest replacing "last" with "latest." This is
> > consistent with my #2 above.
> >
> > 5.  Caption:  "The FSFE team and volunteers during Summer Meeting 2025
> > at the Software Freedom Flat terrace"  Replace "during Summer Meeting
> > 2025 at the Software Freedom Flat terrace" with  "at the Software
> > Freedom Flat terrace during Summer Meeting 2025".  As it stands, this
> > indicates that the summer meeting took place entirely on the terrace.
> >
>


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