Re: [needs translation]

Silvia Rodriguez-Berzosa <[email protected]> Fri, 21 Aug 2026 09:47:25 +0200
Newsgroups	gmane.org.fsf.europe.translators
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
Dear Richard,

thanks for proofreading. The updated version of the timeline with your 
notes is already online: https://fsfe.org/about/timeline/

Best,
Silvia

On 8/19/26 12:01 AM, Richard L. Schmeidler wrote:
> I am proofreading https://fsfe.org/about/timeline/ , except that I am
> not correcting the capitalization of headings until a policy of
> capitalization of headings has been adopted.  I may have other
> suggestions to make for uniformity in the headings, depending on that
> policy.
> 
> 1.  2002:  ZOOOM:  "and business needs in the intersection of Free
> Software, Open Data and Open Source Hardware."  Insert an Oxford comma
> after "Data."
> 
> 2.  2021:  Legal Education Day:  "The FSFE organized the first ‘Legal
> Education Day’ (LED) to provide basic legal education"  I suggest
> replacing "organized" with "organised," and doing so every time the
> word occurs.  There is consistent inconsistency between "organized"
> and "organised."  Usage varies in British English (with "organised"
> with an S generally preferred, but the Oxford University Press
> preferring the Z).  US English prefers the Z.  The FSFE style is to
> use British English.  (In other forms of the word on this page, such
> as "organisation," I see only S.)
> 
> 3.  2001:  Upcycling:  "It organized workshops across Europe and
> developed policy recommendations"  I suggest replacing "organized"
> with "organised."  See my #2, above.
> 
> 4.  2001:  Ada & Zangemann:  "a children's book written by the FSFE
> President Matthias Kirschner and published under a Creative Commons
> licence."  Remove "the."  English usage.
> 
> 5.  19.  2019:  Radio Lockdown Directive:
> 
> (a)   Date:  This item might belong in 2015, not 2019.  The linked
> page, dating from 2019, clearly reports efforts by the FSFE starting
> in 2015:  "Since 2015, the FSFE has been working on raising awareness
> among the public, industry, and political decision-makers, and
> contributing expertise to prevent the negative outcomes of this
> article."  However, there was extra effort in 2019, so this item might
> belong there.
> 
> (b)  Text:
> 
> (i)  "The European Commission collected 276 public comments on the
> Radio Equipment Directive, most of them critical."  I suggest removing
> this sentence.  It is not clear how this was an FSFE accomplishment.
> If you want to suggest in the timeline that this quantity was the
> result of the FSFE's efforts, you should be more explicit.
> 
> (ii)  "The FSFE continued pressing regulators"  I suggest replacing
> "continued pressing" with "successfully pressed."  The linked page
> reports success, and I suggest that the timeline do so too, rather
> than simply reporting the effort.  But the choice is up to you.
> 
> 6.  2018:  Exclusion:  "In this case in the amendments 143 and 150 of
> the current copyright reform proposal of the European Parliament's
> directive."
> 
> (a)  "In this case in the amendments 143 and 150 of the current
> copyright reform proposal of the European Parliament's directive."
> 
> (i)  I suggest replacing the period (full stop) at the end of the
> previous sentence with a comma, and replacing the first word of this
> sentence with "in."  English grammar.  "This sentence no verb."  8-)
> 
> (ii)  Remove "the" before "amendments."  English usage.
> 
> (iii)  Ths is a series of questions, not a suggestion.  I do not know
> anything about this legislation.  What is the status of this
> accomplishment?  Is it an exclusion that has been enacted as
> legislation (as the first sentence of the text of this item says), or
> is it just an exclusion that is part of an important proposal for
> legislation (as this sentence says)?  It appears that the latter is
> the case.  In https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-201812.en.html , I read
> "That's why since the beginning of October, the European Parliament
> and the Council have been in the Trialogue to debate the final text.
> To keep Free Software development excluded from this harmful
> directive, the FSFE will closely follow the process, raising our
> voices for Free Software."
> 
> (c)  The linked page is the effort to drum up support for the
> exclusion, not for the successful result.  (This is the same page
> linked to for the item "Launch of Save Code Share" the previous year.)
>   Is there a more appropriate page to link to, that reports the good
> result, if there was a good result?  If the result was not good, and
> the apparent success reported in this timeline item turned out to have
> been a mirage, the mirage should not be reported as an accomplishment,
> but as a near miss (or should not be reported at all).  [There is a
> saying, "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades."  I
> suppose I could add "and hydrogen bombs."  8-(  ]
> 
> 7.   2017:  FLA:  This is not a suggestion about the text, but rather
> about the appearance of the text.  It is currently
> 
> After 10 years of Fiduciary License
> Agreement 1.2 (FLA-1.2), the FSFE
> joined forces with
> ContributorAgreements.org to pro-
> duce FLA-2.0.
> 
> I agree that "ContributorAgreements.org" should all be on one line,
> not hyphenated,
> 
> However, I suggest
> 
> After 10 years of Fiduciary License
> Agreement 1.2 (FLA-1.2), the FSFE
> joined forces with
> ContributorAgreements.org
> to produce FLA-2.0.
> 
> 8.  2008:  Licensing and Legal Workshop:  "The Free Software Licensing
> and Legal Workshop (LLW), organized by the FSFE's Freedom Task Force,
> gathered experts to discuss license and legal topics."
> 
> (a)  Licensing and Legal Workshop:   I suggest replacing "organized"
> with "organised."  See my #2, above.
> 
> (b)  Replace "license" with "licence."  Yes, in the name of the
> workshop the S in "Licensing" is correct, while in the reference to
> the topic the C in "licence" is correct.  The reason is discussed in
> the latest edition of Fowler's Dictionary of Modern English Usage, and
> in the FSFE Style Guide at
> https://docs.fsfe.org/en/techdocs/mainpage/translations/styleguide ,
> English Rules #5.
> 
> 9.  'In order to strengthen a culture of interoperability between
> devices in EU member states, the FSFE filed an application to
> intervene in this important case".'  Remove the extraneous double
> quotation mark (at the end).
> 
> 10.  There are two adjacent items for different closely related events
> the same year, 2005.  In June, there was an outpouring of opposition
> to a May action of the Council of the European Union.  This is
> reflected in the item "Karlsruhe Memorandum against Software Patents."
>   In July, the European Parliament overwhelmingly rejected that action.
> This is reflected in "European Parliament votes against Software
> Patents."  I suggest that these two timeline items appear in
> chronological order.
> 
> 11.  2005:  Fellowship:  I suggest adding a report that the FSFE
> eliminated the distinction between "fellows" and "supporters" in 2017,
> such as "The FSFE ended the Fellowship program in 2017."  I think that
> this change in the governance of the FSFE would also be a worthy
> timeline item for 2017, but I am not drafting it.  [I know that as an
> active proofreader for the FSFE since 2020, I found the many
> references to "fellows" of the FSFE on the website to be confusing.
> If one looks to see how to apply to become a fellow of the FSFE today,
> one may be fortunate and find
> https://fsfe.org/news/2017/news-20171116-01.en.html .]
> 
> 12.  2004:  Action week:  "the FSFE organized panel discussions and
> several demonstrations."   I suggest replacing "organized" with
> "organised."  See my #2, above.
> 
> 13.  2004:  Open Standards:  "The FSFE contributed to redefine the
> Open Standards definition, which was adopted by many organisations and
> companies in Europe."  Replace "redefine" with "redefining."  English
> grammar.
> 
> 14.  2003:  Education:
> 
> (a)  "To improve the access to Free Software in education, the
> Education Task Force was funded by volunteers of the FSFE. The members
> are experts in this topic."  Remove the first occurrence of "the" (the
> third word).  English usage.
> 
> (b)  The "Learn more" link goes to a page that describes all the
> FSFE's work relating to Free Software in education.  I do not notice
> anything about the Education Task Force or its funding.  It would be
> desirable if the link were to something more relevant, if possible.
> 
> 15.  2001-2002:  There are two items for these years.  The founding of
> the FSFE obviously came before the campaign.  I  suggest that these
> two timeline items appear in chronological order.
> 
> 16.  2001-2002:  Foundation:  The "Learn more" link goes to the FSFE's
> most general webpage, https://fsfe.org/ .  I suggest a link to a
> report of the founding of the FSFE, perhaps
> https://fsfe.org/news/2001/article2001-12-17-01.en.html .
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 2:27 AM Silvia Rodriguez-Berzosa
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have updated the timeline page so now all the years are completed. The
>> updated version of the page is already translated and proofread in
>> English and Spanish. German, Italian and Dutch needs to be updated and
>> it would be great if you could update it into more languages.
>>
>> https://fsfe.org/about/timeline/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Silvia
>>
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Silvia Rodriguez-Berzosa -- Intern
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