Mail text missing(partial) in Archive [Fwd: Comrades’ new-found love wit h IT]

The mail archive for fsf-friends has partial text missing for my mail.

Refer the link below(the original mail is forwarded with this mail):
http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006182.html

The reply to which can be seen here:
http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006185.html

The reply-to-reply can be seen here:
http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2009-January/006187.html

The mail in the _FIRST_ archive link has all text missing.  This is
also evident by comparing the three archive links.

I compose in plain text.  List admins, why has this happened?

-justin



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: justin joseph <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Comrades' new-found love with IT
To: Anivar Aravind <[email protected]>
Cc: haynes davis <[email protected]>, fsf-friends
<fsf-friends-rmfFjpsnoN/[email protected]>


On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Anivar Aravind <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:21 PM, haynes davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> right now non-cpim is a big vacuum regarding free software as far as
>> political and government support is considered. Why our struggle does not
>> seem to be productive in the other states and the central government?

> And Left's adoption of Free Software Policy in Kerala is also a
> logical follow up of various actions & discussions initiated by Free
> Software Activists. Even the decision to adopt Free Software in
> IT@School was decided in an SCERT meeting (with the support of 85% of
> teachers) much before  2006 elections. But the govt came after
> election got the political advantage of this decision. and we are very
> happy about that because they are also helping FS movement by adopting
> new policies .

From http://blue-gnu.biz/content/fsf_india_039_s_impact_far_reaching

Answering to question "Can you tell me some of the key events that
have brought FSF India to the present?"

Sasi Kumar _also_ said:

"This was supported by other organisations also, especially the Kerala
School Teachers' Association and the then Opposition Leader (current
Chief Minister) Mr. V.S. Achuthanandan. As a consequence of these
pressures, the textbook was changed in the second year to include Free
Software also. Eventually, the government decided to use exclusively
Free Software in schools. Thus Kerala became the first state in the
country (and possibly in the world) to use exclusively Free Software
in schools."

Anivar, you are also talking binary.  "Left" on one side and "Free
Software activists" on other side.
Are you saying that the _Kerala School Teachers Association_ (your
(teachers)are entirely composed of free software
activists and that V.S Achuthanandan was also a "free software activist"

Out of the four gains that Sasi kumar has mentioned in his answer, he
gives credit to left parties directly in two.

The other being:

"The left parties, which are partners in the present coalition
government, were sympatheric to our cause and expressed their views to
the Minister. Eventually, the government decided to drop the
provisions that were most harmful."

Sympathies of the left parties does not come out of charity or
emotion.  It comes out of
ideological positions and understandings.  If there is no
understanding of these then at least do
not try and play a disruptive force in the left - free software
alliance by suggesting that left and
free software activism of kerala are _totally_ mutually exclusive and
that the only interconnection
between them is through "follow up", "political advantage", "help" etc..

>
> But when people are pushing Bush's binary logic of "Either you are
> with us or You are against us" (only-cpim positions and branding
> everything else as Anti-CPIM) we have to remind history.

It is better for the free software ecosystems that you stop playing
its official historian.
Report is a different thing and _history_ is a totally different thing.

http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2008-November/005850.html

Anyone can be with the left and still be a free software activist and
their  contribution
and the contributions of their likes, you have no right to appropriate
as you wish and write histories
as you wish.

>
> Anivar
>
>> Haynes.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free
> Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs.
> Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds.
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