Re: [emacs-tangents] [NonGNU ELPA] New package: tabspaces

Eli,

You are of course free to moderate me or any user, yet it doesn't change 
the fact that trust in development process related to LLM contributions 
is already eroded.

Your "Congratulations!" in that context of moderating me is dripping 
with sarcasm and Schadenfreude, just a petty jab rather than a neutral 
administrative action. So no Eli, I trust you are very technical, yet 
not seeing the obvious.

My intention is to point out to obvious, what is not obvious to you. I 
clearly said that nobody can know who is saying the truth, and that is 
not same as calling someone liar.

If you see a house in bad shape, you cannot see people in the house, yet 
you can assume that something is wrong in maintaining the house.

There is so far no trusted procedure in your development process 
ensuring that code was not generated by LLM.

While there are alarming signals: authors using service as software 
substitute, do not run LLM on their own computer, and "Claude" stamps 
all over, pointing and making such contributions suspect. And also all 
of the future.

My intention was to point out to observations. Finally we are all here 
for the GNU GPL software -- I have idea, let me analyze it all even 
better and write the report on the place which cannot be moderated, 
censored.

Jean Louis

On 2026-08-02 07:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2026 20:38:23 +0300
>> From: Jean Louis <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Philip Kaludercic <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> 
>> Here is yet another case that may erode the trust in Emacs 
>> contributions.
> 
> As mentioned many times in the past, this list is inappropriate for
> such discussions.
> 
> Discussions about trusting contributors have no place at all on public
> forums.
> 
> Discussions of GNU guidelines regarding use of LLM-generated output
> should be taken to gnu-misc-discuss, or some other forum.
> 
> You have been asked several times not to discuss this on Emacs lists,
> but failed to comply.  So your "moderate" flag is now set ON, and all
> of your messages here and on emacs-devel will be subject to approval
> by the list moderators.  Congratulations!
> 
> To all the others: please stop responding to posts in this thread (and
> others like it), as we should shut down such discussions ASAP.  They
> are an insult to all involved.  We will NOT have on our lists
> discussions of whether some contributor or a member of the Emacs
> development team are liars.