Re: easy server-side filtering with subaddressing

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:55:23 +0100, NM Public wrote:

> I'm in the process of helping Beartooth change his email setup 
> and this message is one step in that process. Please don't be 
> shy about joining in -- this discussion is for everyone, not 
> just Beartooth and me!
> 
> Because the Pine filters suck and because it makes more sense to 
> filter *incoming* messages on your incoming mail server, I 
> recommend that Beartooth (and everyone) move as much of their 
> filtering to the server as possible.
> 
> One of the easiest ways to do server-side filtering is to use 
> subaddressing. Since Beartooth has an account at FastMail.FM 
> (FM) and FM supports subaddressing, I recommend that Beartooth 
> (and anyone else interested) learn about subaddressing by doing 
> the following experiments.
> 
> Note: To foil the spammers, I'm using the domain example.org in 
> the steps below. Replace example.org with your real domain name.
> 
> 1. Send a message to [email protected]

I sent one from titan (part of the name of my main address, a remote IMAP
account running Pine 4.64); nothing appeared here at once -- but I got an
auto-confirm-request from gmane, and replied to it. Then I got a
corroboration of the reply. And then *another* corroboration.

Then I sent one from FM (really from my fastmail address); got a similar
auto-confirm; replied as before; 


> 2. Did the message arrive? If so, which mailbox was it delivered 
> to?

The autoconfirm and its corroboration for the titan test came to my titan
INBOX. The autoconfirm for the FM test came to the titan FM-inbox, even
though I had sent the post directly from FM, and *not* from titan
FM-inbox that corresponds to it. At least I *think* all that's right ...

 
> 3. Use Pine to create a mailbox named 'test' in your FM IMAP collection

Done. Took me a while to reconstruct how to do it, but it's there now.

> 4. Send another message to
> [email protected]

Done -- first from titan, then direct from FM

> 5. Did the message arrive? If so, which mailbox was it delivered to?

I have three replies from Gmane Remailer about/to beartooth+test, all in
the titan main inbox -- and one was in the FM-inbox in titan's incoming
folders collection, before getting archived to the FM-inbox-old folder in
titan's FM-collection. Nothing seems to've arrived at FM directly, unless
it was grabbed from there by titan without ever making it all the way to
FM's (web-displayed) inbox -- something that has not happened to other
messages nor replies afaik.
 
> 6. Send a message to
> [email protected]

Done from both.

> 7. Did the message arrive? If so, which mailbox was it delivered to?
 
I've been waiting much longer than for the others, and have seen no
replies to that from Gmane Remailer.

Btw, noting has yet appeared on gmane.org.infiniteink, though gmane said
it passed on some; moderated out??
 
> Beartooth, please post the answers to steps 2, 5, and 7. Once we know
> this works and you understand how it works, I'll help you get set up
> using some real (non-test) subaddresses.
> 
> If anyone has any comments or tips about subaddressing, please post them
> here.

I take it you'll now explain inter alia what a subaddress *is*? Or am I
supposed to find it?

-- 
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