Re: Roles and SMTP servers (Was: easy server-side

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:46:33 +0100, NM Public wrote:
[...]
> You definitely *do* want to keep your Adelphia role for 
> situations when you need to use that address in your From 
> header. But you need to understand this:
> 
>  Your Adelphia role will work only when Adelphia is your IAP (*)
 
Ouch. And yes, I needed the footnote. (More comments below it.)
 
> Here's what I recommend you do with that role.
> 
> 1] Run 'pine' on titan.
> 
> 2] Type 'MSRR' (Main > Setup > Rules > Roles).
> 
> 3] Use your arrow keys to select your Adelphia role.
> 
> 4] Type 'C' (Change).
> 
> 5] Change the Nickname (the first line) so the value is 
> something like this:
> 
>      beartooth (AT) adelphia.net [do not use on pine on Lserv]
> 
> Make sure that the role includes both your Adelphia address 
> (replace ' (AT) ' with '@') and the text '[do not use on pine on 
> titan]'. This text will remind you that this role does not work 
> everywhere. You can, of course, specify whatever reminder text 
> you want.

Did all that; I made it "Beartooth-iVX72re7JJ/[email protected] [caveat titan]"

> 6] Move down the screen to this setting:
> 
>      Use SMTP Server =
> 
> Please copy & paste this SMTP Server line into a reply to this 
> message.

Use SMTP Server = mail.adelphia.net

(That's what I put in the corresponding line at the top of MSC in my
unaliassed pine, and in delpine on this machine. I took it from those
places, in fact. It's also what my newsreader uses for giganews, though
not for the other three servers it follows, of course -- one of those
being Gmane. Do I need to set up a machine without an adelphia account (or
a lot more easily, a user without), but with Pan, subscribed only to the
other newsservers, to check anything?)

> 7] Save your changes.

It asked 'Folder "Ad...box" in <ti...MAP> doesn't exist. Exit and save
anyway?' (Elisions in original; methinks we can guess them.) I told it
yes, and got this :

  PINE 4.64   SETUP ROLE RULES    <Incoming-Folders> FM-inbox  58 Msgs  +
    bblx
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    Beartooth-iVX72re7JJ/[email protected] [caveat titan]

I exited, saved, quit, and restarted pine. 

> After I learn what is specified as the SMTP Server for that 
> role, I will continue walking you through setting up and testing 
> this role.
> 
> 
> (*) IAP means Internet Access Provider and is the provider of 
> your "pipe" to the Internet. When you are running pine on titan, 
> the IAP for *that* pine is Lserv. Any interaction between that 
> pine and the Internet is done through the Lserv "pipe." When you 
> are running pine on one of your local computers, your IAP is 
> Adelphia. You will only be able to use your Adelphia role from 
> your local computers.

IOW, pretty much what I do now, in delpine on this machine or unaliassed
pine on the others, right? <sigh>

Two things I don't understand: if my IAP on Lserv is Lserv, despite the
ssh from adelphia, then isn't my IAP at FM FM? But I do seem to be able to
send as well as receive remotely through FM -- thanks to IMAP? Also, when
is an adelphia From: going to be any use elsewhere, such as on titan? Is
FM going to enable me eventually to receive *and also send* through both
titan and adelphia or whatever replaces adelphia??

One more thought: the bblx role does work, as is. I can compose, forward,
and reply with it -- and those usually all spontaneously offer it. (If one
doesn't, I can use # as a command to force the offer.) So it ain't broke;
but it sure doesn't look like the others, at least as to name. Good as she
goes (I hope)?

-- 
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