Re: [OS:N:] Re: Questionaire about the support of students rights and the freedom in the learning environment

"tek" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.org.open-source-now
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> --- Jeremy Hogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 13:33, James Michael DuPont wrote:
> > > The crux of my point is summed up here : 
> > > http://fsedu.org/fsedu.pl?DefendStudents
> > > 
> > >    1. You have the right to use free software instead of
> > proprietary
> > > software for all school-related tasks. The school shall not impede
> > this
> > > right in any way.
> > >    2. You have the right to demand open file formats:
> > >          1. Allow sincere choice of software/operating system
> > >          2. Openly specified and freely implementable
> > >          3. Work with completely Free systems 
> > >    3. You have the right to publish your homework assignments as
> > you
> > > see fit, for profit or gratis.
> > >    4. You have the right to publish what you learn, in your own
> > words,
> > > for profit or gratis.
> > 
> > No one is forced to use Red Hat or its training. If schools like your
> > solution, so be it. At least there's a choice.
> 
> But do the students have any of these freedomes when they choose to
> take part in a redhat online courseware?
> 
> You say that they are not forced to take this course.
> But please answer the question, is is possible for them to take part in
> the redhat acedemy or the red hat courseware and not aggree to any
> licensing aggreements for the software installed on the client
> computers  that requires them giving up thier basic freedoms?

I think anyone creating something has the right to decide if, how and when their 
stuff will and can be distributed. You have a right to create material under any 
license you should decide to chose. Bottom line, your content, your choice, your 
decision, whatever license you want as long as it doesnt conflict with any 
licensing of material your including. You cant squirrel away something that was 
meant for the public by prior license but if you have created it all you can 
sign it under any damn license that you feel comfortable with.

 
> if so, then the FSEdu project will criticize this, and try and make it
> so that the students can study without agreeing to these contracts to
> take away thier basic freedoms.

You might find yourself getting farther along if you chose to word it 
differently. How about something like "well we plan to create course material 
and distribute it under the GPL, would you be interested in contributing any 
material that you have created and are you willing to agree to these licensing 
terms."

Bottom line is your going to be competing against them, i have another friend 
who is doing the same thing and he is doing all of his material under the GPL.
He just delivers it in person and its his own created material. If you want to 
be successful you more than anything have to be a people person. After all if 
your materials all free? why do they need you and why should they pay you 
anything?

> 
> mike
> 
> =====
> James Michael DuPont
> http://introspector.sourceforge.net/
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