RE: [OS:N:] Who should control which IP, was: Questionaire about ...

> Also (as you know) Digital goods are non-rivalrous - their
> consumption does not involve depriving the right of another user to
> also consume them.

Marco:
"This is not pertinent. We were talking of author vs user right, not
user vs user. The phrase above seems to have already given for granted
that the authors has no rights."

The comment I made in does not suggest that the author has no rights.
I was just mentioning a dynamic of binary data within the Internet - and
referring to the 'cost' of copyrighted material.  I was suggesting that
the indivisibility requires a new pricing structure for the sale of
ideas (books, Mp3 whatever) online.  Not a total loss of author rights.


> I was just mentioning that goods which can now use the Internet as
their
> primary means of redistribution and can access 1000 times more
consumers
> for 10 times less the distribution cost may need to reappraise their
> costings.

Marco Said-
"Absolutely, but illegal copying is the wrong way to prove that."

I agree there (however ... I do have a couple of Mp3s somewhere.. :o)

 
> I think its 'one' of the reasons that there is so much 'consumption
> good' piracy (Mp3s, Videos, Books).  (+ also greed, laziness, theft,
> sheer availability) Users in many countries think that $30AUD is too
> much to pay for a downloaded CD they know the corporation just sold 20
> million of and (after high intial costs) is virtually free to
> redistribute.  

Marco said:
"I think that you are too optimistic: 'the' reason why there is so much
illegal copying is simply that people are immature. They think or know
that just about *everything* is overpriced, not just music, at least
because of advertising. They only take the files, not the BMW or
the nice outfit because they would be caught. If an entry level car
started to cost 100000 USD tomorrow people would act the right way:
they would tell the dealer stuff it up your ass, I'll never going to
accept to pay 10/20 times what it costed to you. 

Don't illude yourself: most people simply don't bother with all the
cultured and subtle distinctions we are enjoing here lately about
tangible and not tangible goods, etc..."

LOL, yeah you are right there (about the subtle distinctions part)! 

I'm not sure that refusing to acknowledge a hotly contested legislative
monopoly immediately categorizes someone as immature though..?
I'm sure there are a number of reasons that people infringe IP including
the fact that some people simply do not acknowledge it as a valid
notion.

I have a sneaky suspicion the fact that over 40% of Americans have
downloaded Mp3s (Pew Internet statistics 2000)(and are criminals by
definition) could be at least partially attributed to the
Individualistic nature of our societies in the 21st century.  

Either that or 100 million plus Americans are immature?
And lets not forget about all of the cassette dubbing/floppy dosk
swapping that went down in the 80's :o

Regardless - Linux, Apache, PHP and so on are our tools of choice
because they are open source and in so being seek to re-evaluate
copyright (through Copyleft and other licensing)  so we can all
share/swap use knowledge in a much better way. :)

Cheers,
Paul



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