Re: [OS:N:] Who should control which IP, was: Questionaire about ...

On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 16:49, M. Fioretti wrote:

> 
> > I know a kid that has
> > over 60 gig of downloaded mp3s. 60 GIG!!!!!  Even without over pricing
> > this is a god awful lot of music.
> 
> One thing I just don't understand, completely unrelated to the whole
> IP saga, is do these people ever *listen* to all of it at least once?
> How many days of non stop music is 60 GB MP3?

I'm sure he doesn't.  I have ripped my CD collection into mp3s and the
250+ CDs took about 13 gig.  That means he had over 1000 CDs worth of
music.  I have a few CDs I have listened to just once and a couple more
I was given that I have never heard.  
> 
> > Since his dad found out about it he can only surf the internet when
> > dad is watching.  I know he does it at friends also but you should
> > hear the screaming.
> 
> Did dad scream just because he was not studying, or specifically
> because the kid had illegal stuff in the family PC?
His dad is also a software engineer.  His son is a very good student. 
His dad was mighty mad about the down loading because it is just wrong. 
I know they had a big shake up in the family after the Columbine high
school shootings.  Dad feels he has become too lax again and doing his
parental responsibilities.  By the way, the mp3s are all gone from the
system.  The kid also no longer has his portable mp3 player.  All gone.

> 
> > You can compare the downloading of mp3s to the copying we did in the
> > 70's and 80's if you want. It is partly true but it was just not
> > possible to do it on the scale it is being done today.
> 
> Legally, it is *exactly* the same thing: nobody cared because analog
> technology itself limited people, not because we were self conscious.
I agree.  But everything is relevant to the order of the offense.  I did
occasionly tape a friends album but this was 10 or 20 tapes and I had
over 500 albums.  And as you said those tapes basically dropped in
quality with every playing.  Most it was just like now.  I recorded my
albums and used the tapes in the car, my walkman and at home.  I have a
lot of records still that have been used 1 to 5 times to record on and
are in pristine shape.  Except for a couple they are not worth the cost
to take them to the dump but thats another story.

What we did was of no real consequence to the producers of the music. 
What is being done today is.

As far as software in the 80s went I did some floppy copying.  Most of
it I never put on a computer.  Now I wish I had not even done as much as
copying.  I still have a TI-99/4a, a Radio Shack Color Computer, an
Atari ST1020 and a few others laying around.  They were all not bad for
their time and I think ripping off software made them all unprofiable
for the producers.  I'm sorry I even did a little.



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