[OS:N:] RE: open-source-now-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 3
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I'm still alive.haha =20 Best Regards, Chen Zheng Benchmark Electronics (Suzhou) Office Tel: 86-512-62835580#3388 Fax: 86-512-62839962 E-mail: [email protected]=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:open-source-now-lis= [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]= m Sent: 2008=C4=EA1=D4=C28=C8=D5 13:56 To: [email protected] Subject: open-source-now-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 3 Send open-source-now-list mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of open-source-now-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. OLPC Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? (Paul Swider) 2. Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? (Peter D. St. Onge) 3. Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? (Orlando Echevarria) 4. Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? (Alfred Hovdestad) 5. Re: Is the Open Source Now list alive? (Michael Williams) 6. Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? (Michael Williams) 7. Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? (Mark Jensen) 8. Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? (M. Fioretti) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:00:53 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Swider <[email protected]> Subject: OLPC Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? To: Open source advocacy in education and government <[email protected]> Message-ID: <10338663.1199725253359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net= > =09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 I've been on the list for several years and am glad it's still hear becau= se maybe whoever is left can help me with a new problem. I'm now in journ= alism and working on a story about the OLPC and its effects. I'm curious,= from the standpoint of both hardware and software, what people see has o= r think will happen to the industry as a result of this device. Will we s= ee more flash-driven machines (I think we are)? Will we see more sw devel= opment for this machine/OS/GUI? Will the more commercial enterprises now = recognize, as Intel and Microsoft appear to be doing, that there is a mar= ket even in developing countries for the right sized/priced computing pro= duct? Are there other downstream effects coming? If you want to respond to me off-list, you can send to this email or to p= [email protected], although I can see that this thread might be appropri= ate for the list. Thanks, Paul Swider -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Johnson <[email protected]> >Sent: Jan 7, 2008 11:53 AM >To: Open source advocacy in education and government <open-source-now-li= [email protected]> >Subject: Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? > >Michael! Glad to hear from you! > >73 de Jeff > >On Jan 7, 2008, at 8:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Looks like there are a few people still hanging around. >> >> Since linux has become more mainstream, I guess people just take it =20 >> for >> granted anymore. >> >> Michael >> >> Michael Williams >> Director of Technology >> Haywood County Schools >> (828) 627-8314 >> http://www.haywood.k12.nc.us >> >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> just checking if there are any subscribers and if they are interested >>> to share experiences about teaching and using open source software in >>> Universities or schools of any type and level. >>> >>> Happy 2008, >>> Marco >>> -- >>> Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend =20 >>> on how >>> software is used *around* you: http://digifreedom.net/=20 >>> node/84 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Subscription and Archive: >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list/ >>> - >>> For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: >>> <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Subscription and Archive: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/=20 >> open-source-now-list/ >> - >> For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: >> <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Subscription and Archive: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-s= ource-now-list/ >- >For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: ><https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> Paul Swider 727.776.9979 www.swider.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:36:13 -0500 From: "Peter D. St. Onge" <[email protected]> Subject: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:15:08 -0500 (EST), Michael Williams=20 ([email protected]) wrote: > Since linux has become more mainstream, I guess people just take it > for granted anymore. It's "mainstream" in the sense that it is 'out there' but I question=20 just how popular it is given the ongoing marketing. How about a quick=20 show of hands for folks in educational institutions - how prevalent is=20 Linux (and which distro) in your neck of the woods? Moreover, are the local tech folks exploiting OSS ways in facilitating=20 installation of systems, management of networks and assets? Best, -- pete ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:39:16 -0500 From: Orlando Echevarria <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? To: Open source advocacy in education and government <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Its mainstream where I am in the sense that it is our webserver, db=20 server, faculty workstations for computing, etc. But again, this is my=20 observation, and so far, no hitches or hiccups. We like it. O Peter D. St. Onge wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:15:08 -0500 (EST), Michael Williams=20 > ([email protected]) wrote: > > Since linux has become more mainstream, I guess people just take it > > for granted anymore. > > It's "mainstream" in the sense that it is 'out there' but I question=20 > just how popular it is given the ongoing marketing. How about a quick=20 > show of hands for folks in educational institutions - how prevalent is=20 > Linux (and which distro) in your neck of the woods? > > Moreover, are the local tech folks exploiting OSS ways in facilitating=20 > installation of systems, management of networks and assets? > > Best, > > -- pete > > _______________________________________________ > Subscription and Archive:=20 > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list/ > - > For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: > <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> --=20 Orlando Echevarria Programmer Analyst/Webmaster 261 Glenbrook Road, Unit 2237 School of Engineering University of Connecticut Storrs/Mansfield, CT 06269-2237 Email: [email protected] Phone: (860) 486-3698 Truth, justice, and patriotism unite in proclaiming that both sides fough= t and suffered for liberty as bequeathed by the Fathers--the one for libe= rty in the union of the States, the other for liberty in the independence= of the States. -- John B. Gordon ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:51:32 -0600 From: Alfred Hovdestad <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? To: Open source advocacy in education and government <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Our biggest success has been using Red Hat for our Oracle database=20 servers. The performance and price (h/w and s/w) are great selling point= s. We will be switching our web server (Apache) to Red Hat this year. We=20 are also running our DNS servers (cisco) and our spam filter (Sophos=20 Pure Message) on Red Hat. Our student/faculty/staff web server is running Red Hat and MySQL. Other servers include: network monitoring (nagios) Red Hat 3D graphical workstations Red Hat webmail (imp) Red Hat -- Alfred Hovdestad (RHCE) University of saskatchewan Peter D. St. Onge wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:15:08 -0500 (EST), Michael Williams=20 > ([email protected]) wrote: > > Since linux has become more mainstream, I guess people just take it > > for granted anymore. >=20 > It's "mainstream" in the sense that it is 'out there' but I question=20 > just how popular it is given the ongoing marketing. How about a quick=20 > show of hands for folks in educational institutions - how prevalent is=20 > Linux (and which distro) in your neck of the woods? >=20 > Moreover, are the local tech folks exploiting OSS ways in facilitating=20 > installation of systems, management of networks and assets? >=20 > Best, >=20 > -- pete >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Subscription and Archive:=20 > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list/ > - > For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: > <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:23:23 -0500 From: Michael Williams <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? To: Open source advocacy in education and government <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Jeff Johnson wrote: > Michael! Glad to hear from you! > > 73 de Jeff > > On Jan 7, 2008, at 8:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Looks like there are a few people still hanging around. >> >> Since linux has become more mainstream, I guess people just take it fo= r >> granted anymore. >> >> Michael >> >> Michael Williams >> Director of Technology >> Haywood County Schools >> (828) 627-8314 >> http://www.haywood.k12.nc.us >> >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> just checking if there are any subscribers and if they are interested >>> to share experiences about teaching and using open source software in >>> Universities or schools of any type and level. >>> >>> Happy 2008, >>> Marco >>> --=20 >>> Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on=20 >>> how >>> software is used *around* you: =20 >>> http://digifreedom.net/node/84 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Subscription and Archive: >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list/ >>> - >>> For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: >>> <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Subscription and Archive:=20 >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list/ >> - >> For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: >> <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Subscription and Archive:=20 > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list/ > - > For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: > <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> You too, Jeff. Long time no see. Michael ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:47:15 -0500 From: Michael Williams <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? To: Open source advocacy in education and government <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed We run both RHEL and OpenSuse. (All the critical work is on the RHEL.) I still have one lab of 30 linux thin clients (k12lsp) that has run for=20 5 years now and all I've done is replace two power supplies in clients=20 and one hard drive in the server. There are three other thin client labs=20 in the works and we are planning on some thick client experiments later=20 this year. It would be hard to find a teacher or staff member in our district that=20 doesn't know about open source software resources, StarOffice, GIMP are=20 loaded on every computer that comes into the district. We are evaluating the eeePC laptop and another one whose name escapes me=20 right now. We use plone, moodle, wordpress for web and teacher sites. Network monitoring, etc..... All the "low hanging fruit" ! It is a nightmare trying to introduce change into the current public=20 educational institutions, even from inside, so I've decided to take an=20 early retirement next year and try a different approach, don't know=20 exactly what yet but it's time for a change. ;-) Michael Peter D. St. Onge wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:15:08 -0500 (EST), Michael Williams=20 > ([email protected]) wrote: > > Since linux has become more mainstream, I guess people just take it > > for granted anymore. > > It's "mainstream" in the sense that it is 'out there' but I question=20 > just how popular it is given the ongoing marketing. How about a quick=20 > show of hands for folks in educational institutions - how prevalent is=20 > Linux (and which distro) in your neck of the woods? > > Moreover, are the local tech folks exploiting OSS ways in facilitating=20 > installation of systems, management of networks and assets? > > Best, > > -- pete > > _______________________________________________ > Subscription and Archive:=20 > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list/ > - > For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: > <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:56:28 -0600 From: Mark Jensen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? To: Open source advocacy in education and government <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed In schools here in Tennessee, Microsoft systems are the norm. Certainly=20 on the clients, and I believe in the server arena, too. :-/ Peter D. St. Onge wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:15:08 -0500 (EST), Michael Williams=20 > ([email protected]) wrote: > > Since linux has become more mainstream, I guess people just take it > > for granted anymore. >=20 > It's "mainstream" in the sense that it is 'out there' but I question=20 > just how popular it is given the ongoing marketing. How about a quick=20 > show of hands for folks in educational institutions - how prevalent is=20 > Linux (and which distro) in your neck of the woods? >=20 > Moreover, are the local tech folks exploiting OSS ways in facilitating=20 > installation of systems, management of networks and assets? >=20 > Best, >=20 > -- pete >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Subscription and Archive:=20 > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list/ > - > For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: > <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn> >=20 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:53:42 +0100 From: "M. Fioretti" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Just how mainstream is it? Re: [OS:N:] Is the Open Source Now list alive? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 12:36:13 PM -0500, Peter D. St. Onge ([email protected]) wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:15:08 -0500 (EST), Michael Williams=20 > ([email protected]) wrote: > > Since linux has become more mainstream, I guess people just take it > > for granted anymore. > > It's "mainstream" in the sense that it is 'out there' but I question ju= st=20 > how popular it is given the ongoing marketing. I was going to write the same thing. It isn't mainstream in the sense of "adopted or supported widely enough to guarantee its survival", not at all the way I see it. Generally speaking, I am *very* concerned these days about the lack of effectiveness in communication from the FOSS community towards everybody else. Later I will post here some articles and proposals I wrote in the past on this very theme, as I believe they are very relevant to the charter of this list. Gotta go now, for the moment I'll just add "Hello everybody, I'm happy there are other people here and I hope we can work together!". Marco --=20 Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how software is used *around* you: http://digifreedom.net/node/84 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ open-source-now-list mailing list [email protected] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-source-now-list End of open-source-now-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 3 *************************************************** _______________________________________________ Subscription and Archive: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-so= urce-now-list/ - For K12OS technical help join K12OSN: <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn>