RE: Data Center Facility Costs

I am actually surprised nobody is offering datacenter space there
already in small quantities.  Basically everyone currently there built
their own buildings or leased large existing spaces.   It sure seems to
me there would be a market for cages and onsite support for anyone who
has power-hungry hosting; unfortunately we don't have the customer base
to justify building out anything big.

John van Oppen
Spectrum Networks LLC
206.973.8302 (Direct)
206.973.8300 (main office)

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Jeff Koch
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Data Center Facility Costs


Are we talking about Spokane or further south?  How's the internet 
connectivity around there? I'll move - what should I tell the wife and
kids :)


At 01:11 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>Well if anyone wants to get together to build an Eastern Washington
>datacenter, we would love to help. :)   Depending on where on the east
>side of the state, the power costs range from a low of about $0.015 KWh
>to about $0.070 KWh and it is all hydro.
>
>John van Oppen
>Spectrum Networks LLC
>206.973.8302 (Direct)
>206.973.8300 (main office)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
>On Behalf Of jp
>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:11 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Data Center Facility Costs
>
>
>As much as I'd love to invite you all to be customers, don't come to
>Maine.
>
>We pay about $0.16 per KWH, making the power bill the major component
in
>
>a customer's colocation bill. We save a worthwhile amount of money in
>the winter by mixing some outdoor air, but it's not substantial enough
>to affect colo customer's bills.
>
>If you were on a Maine island with power, it might be $0.28-0.55 per
>KWH.
>
>On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:12:38AM -0500, Jeff Koch wrote:
> >
> > I changed the title a little to reflect the changed conversation
about
>the
> > cost of running a data center.
> >
> > Anyway, are there parts of the country where the cost of running a
>data
> > center are substantially cheaper? Maybe where the cost of power is 3
>cents
> > per KW or maybe where the climate is cooler and you can just open
the
>doors
> > (figuratively speaking) to cool the servers. Since electricity seems
>to be
> > the greatest operating cost where's the best place to locate a DC?
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:43 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> > >joe mcguckin wrote:
> > >
> > >>I don't think it costs $276 to reject the heat. Most modern HVAC
>systems
> > >>have something like a 4:1 effeciency factor, so it probably really
> > >>costs something like $70 for cooling...
> > >
> > >Check the archives of NANOG42 (you're on the attendee list too...)
>and
> > >you'll see someone (multiple people?) quote the figures I used.  I
> > >recently attended a cooling seminar (thanks Digital Realty Trust!)
>and
> > >they quoted a facility that had metered their "stuff" and were
>stunned by
> > >the results.
> > >
> > >Note that I lumped things together as "infrastructure", not just
>direct
> > >cooling.
> > >
> > >pt
> > >
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> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Jeff Koch, Intersessions
> >
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Best Regards,

Jeff Koch, Intersessions 

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