Fw: [CALEA] CALEA for co-lo transit providers?

"Marlon K. Schafer" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.org.operators.internet-access
Message-ID <006101c8909c$fe585980$0001010a@mlaptop2>
Here ya have it.  Read below, inline.

For those that are going to ISPCon, last I knew Mike was set to be one of 
the folks there to cover the CALEA session.

laters,
marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael J. Erskine" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CALEA] CALEA for co-lo transit providers?


> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Can anyone answer this question for John?
>>
>> John, the advice to hit up ask calea was spot on too.  They are good 
>> folks
>> over there.
>>
>> thanks,
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Todd" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:47 AM
>> Subject: CALEA for co-lo transit providers?
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm sure someone knows this off the top of their heads, so I'll ask the
>>> non-lawyers here for some clue before I wade into the documentation...
>>>
>>> I know that CALEA applies to all "service providers" for broadband 
>>> access
>>> and VoIP application services here in the United States. However, does
>>> CALEA apply to co-location transit providers?(*)  In other words:
>>> facilities that have no end-users or end-user circuits in them, but only
>>> large arrays of application servers?   I'm asking about IP transit, and
>>> not about physical layer.  Equinix, as an example: with their Equinix
>>> Direct product (blended transit inside their facilities) are they 
>>> subject
>>> to CALEA?
>>>
> Yes, they are subject in exactly the same way as any ISP in the US is
> subject.  In as much as they are located in the US and provide a transit
> service they are subject to the same stipulations that  the WISP I work
> for (http://www.freeantennas.com/Kaballero-Mar-08.JPG) WISP is subject
> too.  You will observe that we have a CALEA requirement to collect VoIP
> even though we are not a VoIP provider.  If it crosses my network then I
> have a CALEA responsibility. If it happens that we are the only point
> where the data can be collected, we can expect to receive the subpoena.
>>> My gut instinct is "no" after doing some reading, but it's not entirely
>>> clear.  Opinions welcome, and referenced facts even more so.
>>>
>>>
>>> (*) Of course, one always must comply with a court order, but that is 
>>> not
>>> what I'm asking about - I'm talking about the "built-in" intercept
>>> functionality that many equipment vendors are now integrating into
>>> equipment, and pre-event access configuration that may be requested by
>>> LEAs.
>>>
> You are required to be able to collect such information as crosses your
> network, in particular, if it crosses your network and your network is
> the only place the data can be collected then you can expect the
> subpoena and you must be able to answer that subpoena.  The only class
> of carrier which is exempt is the "not for profit" provider.  That term
> has not yet been defined.  It may be that a restaurant with an open AP
> is a "for profit" provider because they expect to receive some
> compensation by providing the service.  These nuances are undefined
> because they have not been tested in court.
>
> -m-
>>> JT
>>> -- 
>>> Eat sushi frequently. - Avi
>>> [email protected] is the human contact address.
>>> [email protected] is the list posting address.
>>> See below URL for subscribe/unsubscribe and list options:
>>> http://inet-access.net/mailman/listinfo/list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CALEA mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/calea
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CALEA mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/calea 

-- 
Eat sushi frequently. - Avi
[email protected] is the human contact address.
[email protected] is the list posting address.
See below URL for subscribe/unsubscribe and list options:
http://inet-access.net/mailman/listinfo/list
lmpx.com only provides a reader for public news (NNTP) servers. It is not affiliated with the servers or forums shown here and is not responsible for the content of articles, which is written by their respective authors.