Re: Google and the South African Internet

http://ispa.org.za/membership/list-of-members/?about=531 

read the thread - ho-hum and it would not be the first post about the arrest
that would me question whether to hire you
Agree there is unlikely to be a successful legal strategy*
suggest you ask mybb if some text can be inserted in the initial post to
create some balance

* although I would love someone to have a go at sending a take-down notice
to a search provider under s76 of the ECT Act:

Information location tools

76.
A service provider is not liable for damages incurred by a person if the
service provider refers or links users to a web page containing an
infringing data message or infringing activity, by using information
location tools, including a directory, index, reference, pointer, or
hyperlink, where the service provider--
(a) does not have actual knowledge that the data message or an activity
relating to the data message is infringing the rights of that person;
(b) is not aware of facts or circumstances from which the infringing
activity or the infringing nature of the data message is apparent;
(c) does not receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the
infringing activity; and
(d) removes, or disables access to, the reference or link to the data
message or activity within a reasonable time after being informed that the
data message or the activity relating to such data message, infringes the
rights of a person.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: 11 December 2015 11:31 AM
To: IOZ <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [IOZ] Google and the South African Internet

And I thought everyone had been thrown into the back of a police van.

checkout http://ispa.org.za/code-of-conduct/take-down-guide/ - and while
they're not ISPA members, it gives you an idea of how to go about things (if
you have not already).

--Calvin

On 11/12/2015 11:23, Andre Coetzee wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 11:01:26 +0200
> Liam Smit <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'd never heard of this until now... Talk about resurrecting a thread 
>> from dead...
>> If you're unhappy about it then:
>> 1.) Get MyBroadband to remove the forum post
>> 2.) Get Google to remove the search result
> the owner, [email protected] as well as the person who posted the 
> thread, is not interested in removing it, neither is anyone at 
> mybroadband.co.za
>
> Google says that they will not remove it as it is free speech.
>
> Legally, the main issue is not inaccurate, I was arrested.
>
> Is it fair? lets say you, a private person, Liam Smit, is not liked by 
> Sunday Times and you are pulled over for a normal routine traffic 
> stop...
>
> Is it cool for the Sunday Times to run front page, for MANY MANY YEARS 
> IN THE FUTURE: "Liam Smit pulled over by Police and then just that you 
> were pulled over, that nobody likes you and that all Ford drivers suck 
> eggs"
>
> Just because they can?
>
> Thing is Liam, until something bad/evil/unfair actually happens to 
> you, you will nto really appreciate this.
>
> Imagine trying to gain a small contract so that you can buy food for 
> your 4 year old little girl and 9 year old boy and you are told 
> "sorry, we do not want you to do the work because the police arrested you"
>
> Bias.
>
> It is normal - I would not hire myself either.
>
>
>
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 09:08:00 +0200
>> Andre Coetzee <[email protected]> wrote:
>> When I search my name on Google.com the 5th result is this:
>>
>> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/400259-Arrest-of-Internet-
>> Personality-Andre-Coetzee
>>
>> I was arrested in 2012 at my address and held for three days by the 
>> SA Police for refusing to pay a bribe to a police officer.
>>
>> The 'official' reason for my arrest inside a building at my address 
>> is "refusing to provide my address to a police officer"
>>
>> Charges which were quite obviously withdrawn as we still have a 
>> seemingly/sometimes functional legal system.
>>
>> and, other charges were of course made, etc, etc.
>>
>> Now go read the rubbish that 'mybroadband.co.za'/internet community 
>> publishes and http://google.com promotes as 'fact' or even closely 
>> relevant.
>>
>> Maybe I should have simply paid the bribe, the cop only wanted a few 
>> thousand rands as he confused me with someone else to begin with.
>> Anyway, I digress.
>>
>> It is the contributions that everyone, including civil society, makes 
>> to South Africa that shapes what it is.
>>
>> Google views "mybroadband.co.za" as a "news" website and as seemingly 
>> has vast popular support by the community (including you) that 
>> represents the South African Internet.
>>
>> meanwhile, the truth is that 'mybroadband.co.za" is obviously not a 
>> "real" news website.
>>
>> But, you, the South African Internet users, and GOOGLE strongly 
>> supports this "website" for some unknown reason?
>>
>> The result of this 'trust" is that;
>>
>> Every time I meet someone new or try to do new business I find myself 
>> having to explain the post and thread on mybroadband.co.za
>>
>> I have nothing to do with mybroadband.co.za or that thread, except 
>> responding to it and subsequently deleting any account that I had 
>> there
>>
>> On the South African Internet we will either follow the Chinese model 
>> of running a type of intranet or the Russian model, the European 
>> model (which protects private people and privacy - and the sh1t 
>> published by this 'mybroadband' and marketed by Google.com about an 
>> "internet personality' (wtf??) will never fly.
>>
>> But maybe South Africans like the idea of an Intranet (like China) or 
>> security cops like Russia? or what?
>>
>> Andre
>>
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