Re: Can route-views be trusted?

Jon Lewis via NANOG <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.org.operators.nanog
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026, Hank Nussbacher via NANOG wrote:

> We had F5 announce a /24 on our behalf.  We then asked F5 to withdraw that 
> /24.  Route-views showed the /24 still being announced via an F5 path.  F5 
> claims that route-views is incorrect and the route had been properly 
> withdrawn.  They state that public route collectors (including route-views) 
> reflect what their individual collector peers are seeing at a given moment. 
> Due to propagation timing, peer refresh intervals, and collector update 
> cycles, visibility across different monitoring platforms is not always 
> perfectly synchronized in real time.

It does take time for route updates to propagate, and I've seen some 
providers/platforms take what seems like unreasonable minutes to drop 
routes after origination has ceased...but if they're hanging around longer 
than that, odds are [extremely high], F5 is still leaking the route to 
someone who's propagating it to the Internet (or at least to route-views) 
in order for route-views to see it.

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