Re: FCC issues new rules about foreign made routers
Joe Klein via NANOG <[email protected]>
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Sixteen years ago, I was asked to attend a meeting at Verizon regarding the IPv6 plan, whether the routers were manufactured in China, and what is your consumer security look like. I was informed that they were working on IPv6, they are secure and that all consumer routers were produced in the US.. Fast forward to March 10, 2026, when I began researching the topic. Here the my results. *The main OEMs Verizon used for consumer routers/gateways were:* - *Actiontec* — U.S. company; at least some Verizon MI424WR units were *made in China*. - *Westell* — U.S. company; at least some Verizon VersaLink 7500 units were *made in China*. - *D-Link* — Taiwan company; production country *not firmly verified *here for Verizon-labeled units. - *Linksys* — U.S. company at the time Verizon used the BEFW11S4; production country *not firmly verified here*. - *Arcadyan* — Taiwan company; verified as OEM/grantee for Verizon’s *G3100*, and likely associated with *CR1000B* and *ARC-XCI55AX*. - *Wistron NeWeb (WNC)* — Taiwan company; associated with Verizon’s *CR1000A*, *ASK-NCQ1338*, and likely *WNC-CR200A*. *What I can say confidently about their production location* *Clearly verified as produced in China* - Actiontec *MI424WR Rev. F* - Actiontec *MI424WR Rev. I* - Westell *VersaLink 7500* *OEM company is verified, but factory country is not yet firm from the sources I checked was one year ago.* - Arcadyan-made Verizon *G3100* - WNC-made Verizon *CR1000A* - Arcadyan-associated *CR1000B* - WNC-made / WNC-associated Verizon 5G gateways - D-Link and Linksys older Verizon consumer units *Best initial conclusion* For Verizon consumer routers from the 2000s through today, the OEM pattern is: - *Older DSL / early broadband / early FiOS:* mostly *Actiontec, Westell, D-Link, Linksys*. - *Modern FiOS / 5G Home:* mostly *Arcadyan* and *Wistron NeWeb*, both *Taiwan-based OEMs*. *Today Update: *From the models we discussed, the ones I can *confidently tie to physical assembly in China* are: - *Verizon G3100* — third-party hardware databases identify the OEM as Arcadyan and list the *country of manufacture as China*. - *Verizon D-Link VDI/DI-624 generation* — multiple hardware-db entries for DI-624 revisions list *country of manufacture as China*. That supports the Verizon-era D-Link family being physically assembled in China, though not every single revision is proven by the same source. - *Verizon Linksys BEFW11S4 family* — at least the *BEFW11S4 v4 (r2, China)* is explicitly listed as *country of manufacture: China*. Earlier revisions were not all China-built; for example, v3.0 is listed as Taiwan. The ones I *would not label as China-assembled based on what I could verify* are: - *CR1000A* — FCC documents identify *Wistron NeWeb (Taiwan)* as applicant/manufacturer, and third-party hardware databases list the *country of manufacture as Vietnam*, not China. - *CR1000B* — FCC documents identify *Arcadyan (Taiwan)* as applicant, but I did *not* find a solid primary source proving China assembly for this exact Verizon model. A third-party hardware database result suggests *ROC/Taiwan*, not China. *OEM/Production/Manufacture Update*From the models we discussed, the ones I can *confidently tie to physical assembly in China* are: - *Verizon G3100* — third-party hardware databases identify the OEM as Arcadyan and list the *country of manufacture as China*. - *Verizon D-Link VDI/DI-624 generation* — multiple hardware-db entries for DI-624 revisions list *country of manufacture as China*. That supports the Verizon-era D-Link family being physically assembled in China, though not every single revision is proven by the same source. - *Verizon Linksys BEFW11S4 family* — at least the *BEFW11S4 v4 (r2, China)* is explicitly listed as *country of manufacture: China*. Earlier revisions were not all China-built; for example, v3.0 is listed as Taiwan. The ones I *would not label as China-assembled based on what I could verify* are: - *CR1000A* — FCC documents identify *Wistron NeWeb (Taiwan)* as applicant/manufacturer, and third-party hardware databases list the *country of manufacture as Vietnam*, not China. - *CR1000B* — FCC documents identify *Arcadyan (Taiwan)* as applicant, but I did *not* find a solid primary source proving China assembly for this exact Verizon model. A third-party hardware database result suggests *ROC/Taiwan*, not China. *Model/family* *Physically assembled in China?* *What I could verify* Verizon *G3100* *Yes* China listed in hardware databases. Verizon *CR1000A* *No evidence of China; likely Vietnam* FCC shows WNC Taiwan; hardware-db lists Vietnam. Verizon *CR1000B* *Not verified as China* FCC shows Arcadyan Taiwan; no strong China-assembly proof found. Verizon *D-Link VDI/DI-624 era* *Yes, at least some revisions* Several DI-624 revisions list China. Verizon *Linksys BEFW11S4 era* *Yes, at least some revisions* v4 (r2, China) explicitly lists China; older revs varied. The main caveat is that the *manufacturing country can vary by hardware revision*, even within the same retail model family. That is especially clear with the Linksys BEFW11S4 line, where one revision is from Taiwan and another is explicitly from China. *Now the question...* Will the US carriers require all their consumers to change routers, who will bear the cost and what about timeline? Just a thought... Joe Klein On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 6:43 AM Saku Ytti via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2026 at 11:51, Mukund Sivaraman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What relation does speaking in Mandarin have with injecting code for > > money? > > None. Hence 'Most people'. > > Point being, the seat doesn't matter, Chinese nationals sitting in > China or Silicon Valley does not have security implications. > > -- > ++ytti > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/SO6ROA5QQDULY4TOB3ESFAHDD5WBTDUW/ > _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/SOZOIIMW5WGS7WTMZPMLHQWIL3WDSYB4/