Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 2:30 PM Jamie Thain via NANOG <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Joe,
>
> No patent apps it's all free. Corp isn't moving off ipv4 to ipv6. So ipv8
> is an upgrade to ipv4.
>
> So still need to fix the issues in ipv4/ipv6.
>
> Like merging to companies both using 10.x
>
> Unless a move is made ipv4 will still be running the warp drive.
>
> People are planning to build ipv8 right now.
>
>
i look forward to future iterations of the drafts with implementation
co-authors.

personally, i'll be particularly interested in the hardware implementations
of ACL8.


> Jamie
>
> On Thu., Apr. 30, 2026, 12:51 p.m. Joe Klein, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This is very funny!
> >
> > - In 2004, very talented Chinese developers worked to implement IPv9. At
> > present there are exclusive patents, but have yet to seen any code.
> >
> > - Over 20 cumulative years, there are about 0.5–2 trillion IPv6 address
> > instances, with the high side is driven by mobile devices, Wi-Fi roaming,
> > privacy-address rotation, VMs, containers, VPNs, and tunnels. In short,
> > this covers the ocean floor, caves, areas near Earth, and deep space.
> Will
> > you and your team pay for the IPv4/IPv6 change? When will you submit the
> > patent applications (Similary to Microsoft patent for SEND/CGA)?
> >
> > Have fun.
> >
> > OO.
> >
> > Joe Klein
> >
> > "inveniet viam, aut faciet" --- Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II, Scene
> 1)
> > "*I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been."
> > -- *Wayne Gretzky
> > "I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 10:51 AM Tom Beecher via NANOG <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> >> > not being polite, you're enabling.
> >>
> >>
> >> Only works when the recipient is actually open to receiving feedback and
> >> collaborating.
> >>
> >> Reading Mr. Thain's replies here and on int-area answers that question
> >> quite rapidly.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 2:35 AM Saku Ytti via NANOG <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
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> >> > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> >> > not being polite, you're enabling.
> >> >
> >> > Stop supporting this LLM psychosis.
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> >> > --
> >> >   ++ytti
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