RE: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG <[email protected]>
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IPv6 adoption for ISPs and OTTs are very high (all examples below are from these segments). ISPs have reduced IPv6 to something extremally simplified (cancelled all 1st hop complexity) - it is not IPv6 anymore. OTTs are capable to handle IPv6 enormous complexity.
I believe that IPv6 would never win on the Enterprise market despite I have heard examples of adoption (I have heard about a few cases of downgrade too) - the first hop complexity would block it.
Hence, I believe that mankind would stay with IPv4 + NAT for many decades on the business side.
"IPv6 for people, IPv4 for businesses".
IPv6 is a big fail of IETF procedures. But not everything in this world is possible to fix. IMHO: IPv8 would not happen too.

May be in the next century and only if new principal requirements would appear.
LEO had a chance to be such a driver (to replace IPv6). But LEO carriers decided to hide all complexity below IP level (like 3GPP did).
Eduard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Burkholder via NANOG <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2026 18:37
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> Subject: Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF
> 
> On 2026-05-05 09:33, Eric Germann via NANOG wrote:
> > I believe Microsoft uses IPv6 internally, at least that’s what I read
> > a long time ago
> 
> Plus all the cell phone providers (even the Canadian ones), plus many/some
> big ISPs, I think I heard ComCast (millions of subscribers) is on IPv6.  Plus Asia
> runs on IPv6, if I heard correctly.
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