Re: IPv4 flag day
Marco Moock via NANOG <[email protected]> Fri, 19 Jun 2026 23:34:28 +0200
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Am 19.06.26 um 22:23 schrieb Aaron C. de Bruyn: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 1:03 PM Gary Sparkes <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The clean path would be NPTv6 with ULA for the same exact setup. >> >> It would slot in and work identically to how the IPv4 deployment is today. >> >> Instead of RFC1918, you have ULA addressing. Same concept. >> >> Except with NPTv6 you're doing 1:1 and eliminate PAT. >> >> Of course, if you're single provider, might as well just use prefix >> delegation, NPT's real shine is the multi-WAN scenario with no upstream >> routing protocol that sparked off a lot of discussion. >> >> As to changing providers when using prefix delegation, most stuff can >> auto-update itself, but otherwise it's a simple find/replace exercise in >> documentation and records when your provider prefix changes as the last >> half of the address is entirely stable, and the first half is (mostly) >> provider. >> > > Maybe I need to do a bit more digging as I'm not an expert at IPv6--but > aren't ULA addresses basically randomly assigned to hosts based on their > NIC HW address and a few other things? You should really, really improve your IPv6 knowledge. > A short example from a very large client I manage: > They use IPv4 10/8 > The next octet is allocated for the state the office is located in "plus > 100". So if they open an office in Alabama (22nd state to join the union), > it's gonna be 10.122/16. > The third octet is assigned sequentially. The first office opened in > Alabama is 10.122.0.0/24. > The last octet is static. Router at .254, linux server at .250, Windows > (ugh) RDP server at .249, workstations are DHCP between .100 and .199, > etc... That is almost impossible for large networks - as the address space if often too low. BTDT. > You can give me nearly any IP from this client and I know the device. > But ULA gives me: fe80::ae1f:6bff:feb0:3c98/64 You seem to have no clue that ULA and link-local are different. fd00::/8 is ULA. You can use fd00:random::/48 and then set every bit in the last 80 bit. > Hard-code the address to fe80::122:00000:250/64 (just to know it's a linux > server in Alabama) and then set up NPTv6...and update a *ton* of DNS info > so the rest of the world can easily get to the correct machines? No, you only use fe80 for link-local communication (mostly NDP, some discovery protocols), nothing else. -- Gruß Marco Junk-Mail bitte an [email protected] _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/3VL3YYG5C2E7ATZVW2KW2YEVKDTTOLDD/