Re: Spark/Vodafone peering

Blair Harrison <[email protected]>
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Looks pretty in-country to me

from my home bigpipe (spark) vdsl -
> tracert ns1.ihug.co.nz

Tracing route to ns1.ihug.co.nz [203.109.129.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  192.168.20.1
  2    33 ms    35 ms    16 ms  210.54.38.1
  3    16 ms    16 ms    17 ms  122.56.60.70
  4    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  122.56.60.71
  5    41 ms    16 ms    15 ms  g2-0-3-549.tkcr4.global-gateway.net.nz
[122.56.118.97]
  6    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  203.98.18.69
  7    24 ms    16 ms    16 ms  203.98.18.163
  8    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  bvi-400.bgnzldv02.akl.vf.net.nz
[203.109.180.242]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10    17 ms    16 ms    44 ms  ns1.ihug.co.nz [203.109.129.67]



On 30 November 2017 at 23:15, Nathan Ward <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > On 30/11/2017, at 11:21 AM, Dmitry Konchanin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I maybe missing on some last century/decade history, but what's the
> current story with Spark/Vodafone public peering in Australia but not in
> New Zealand? With <somebody>  has stopped paid(?) peering with these guys
> recently, is it a today's case that rest of the country talks to Spark
> (government owned?)/Vodafone via 50ms Sydney path and everybody is happy
> with it?
>
>
> If you’d like some operational feedback, give some examples of where
> you’re seeing this. Source/dest/traceroutes/etc. etc. are all useful.
>
> Not sure why you say “government owned?” there - are you implying that
> Spark might be government owned? It is not, if that’s your question.
>
> As Jon says, peering is in NZ as it is in the rest of the world. Everyone
> can choose to not peer, for whatever reason they want. It may be the case
> that some networks partially peer in some locations, fully in others, etc.
> etc. Networks are flexible, so, business needs often dictate things that
> might seem weird on the surface.
> NZ has a tradition of lots of peering, but, traditions are not rules. If
> it is painful for your customers to reach Spark/VFNZ, then you need to find
> out how you can reach those networks, and if the cost to do so is worth it
> to reduce that pain. There are a number of options for doing so.
>
> If you have a 50ms RTT to Sydney from Auckland, something is wrong. Expect
> 25-30ish.
>
> --
> Nathan Ward
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