Re: Spark/Vodafone peering

Pete Mundy <pete-ci/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.org.operators.nznog
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On 30/11/2017, at 11:15 PM, Nathan Ward <[email protected]> wrote:

I maybe missing on some last century/decade history, but what's the current
story with Spark/Vodafone public peering in Australia but not in New
Zealand? With <somebody>  has stopped paid(?) peering with these guys
recently, is it a today's case that rest of the country talks to Spark
(government owned?)/Vodafone via 50ms Sydney path and everybody is happy
with it?


If you’d like some operational feedback, give some examples of where you’re
seeing this. Source/dest/traceroutes/etc. etc. are all useful.


Here's an example of what I'm thinking is maybe sub-optimal
peering/routing, albeit at least in-country...

My example traffic is sourced from a VF UFB static IP and heading to 2talk,
but appears to be crossing the Spark network?!

With all the industry consolidation these days it's hard to keep up. Is
this expected behaviour these days, or something I should escalate?

And presumably, if I escalate, it should be to 2talk not VF because the
reverse direction seems to be OK?

ladmin@fpl-rpi32 ~ $ mtr -n -c 2 sip.2talk.co.nz
                                          My traceroute  [v0.85]
fpl-rpi32 (0.0.0.0)
     Tue Dec 12 07:21:29 2017
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                                 Packets
            Pings
 Host                                                          Loss%   Snt
  Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 192.168.1.1                                                 0.0%     2
   1.2   1.1   1.0   1.2   0.0
 2. 210.246.31.254                                              0.0%     2
  52.5  44.7  37.0  52.5  11.0
 3. 203.167.245.102                                             0.0%     2
   5.0   4.3   3.6   5.0   1.0
 4. 203.167.245.101                                             0.0%     2
   3.3   4.7   3.3   6.0   1.7
 5. 203.98.18.65                                                0.0%     2
  14.6  14.2  13.9  14.6   0.0
 6. 203.98.18.66                                                0.0%     2
  16.2  16.0  15.8  16.2   0.0
 7. 122.56.127.210                                              0.0%     2
  14.3  14.1  13.8  14.3   0.0
 8. 122.56.118.114                                              0.0%     2
  14.1  14.8  14.1  15.5   1.0
 9. 114.31.203.130                                              0.0%     2
  14.4  13.9  13.4  14.4   0.0
10. 27.111.14.77                                                0.0%     2
  16.5  14.8  13.2  16.5   2.2
11. 27.111.14.65                                                0.0%     2
  14.8  15.1  14.8  15.5   0.0

Once more with DNS on:

ladmin@fpl-rpi32 ~ $ mtr -c 2 sip.2talk.co.nz
                                          My traceroute  [v0.85]
fpl-rpi32 (0.0.0.0)
     Tue Dec 12 07:20:21 2017
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                                 Packets
            Pings
 Host                                                          Loss%   Snt
  Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 192.168.1.1                                                 0.0%     2
   1.0   1.1   1.0   1.3   0.0
 2. 210-246-31-254.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz                           0.0%     2
   7.9   6.3   4.6   7.9   2.2
 3. 203.167.245.102                                             0.0%     2
   5.9   5.9   5.9   5.9   0.0
 4. 203.167.245.101                                             0.0%     2
   3.7   4.0   3.7   4.4   0.0
 5. 203.98.18.65                                                0.0%     2
  15.1  15.6  15.1  16.1   0.0
 6. 203.98.18.66                                                0.0%     2
  15.9  15.4  14.9  15.9   0.0
 7. ae10-44.tkcr5.global-gateway.net.nz                         0.0%     2
  16.1  14.6  13.1  16.1   2.0
 8. vocus-dom.tkcr5.global-gateway.net.nz                       0.0%     2
  14.4  14.9  14.4  15.5   0.0
 9. as55561.cust.bdr01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz
<http://alb01.akl.vocus.net.nz/>                   0.0%     2   14.5  16.2
 14.5  17.8   2.2
10. 27-111-14-77.2talk.co.nz                                    0.0%     2
  13.6  14.2  13.6  14.8   0.0
11. phone.nzpbx.com                                             0.0%     2
  15.7  14.9  14.1  15.7   1.0

Reverse direction appears OK (akl-ix), but visibility from my endpoint also
isn't great:

root@2tvm:~# mtr -c 2 210.246.28.87
                                  My traceroute  [v0.80]
2tvm.fiberphone.co.nz (0.0.0.0)                                   Tue Dec
12 09:43:09 2017
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                  Packets
Pings
 Host                                           Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg
 Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 103-29-30-1.static.2talk.co.nz               0.0%     2    0.9   2.3
0.9   3.7   2.0
 2. ???
 3. as55561.akl-ix.nz                            0.0%     2    1.1   0.9
0.8   1.1   0.2
 4. 43.243.21.64                                 0.0%     2    1.8   1.9
1.8   2.1   0.2
 5. ???

Or am I just confused and this is all optimal?

-
Pete Mundy

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