Re: decent SOHO switches?

Stuart Campbell <scampbell-2w95/[email protected]> Tue, 2 Jul 2019 13:03:48 +1200
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<DIV>Mikrotik announced these and hopefully we shall see them soon:</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="https://www.servethehome.com/new-mikrotik-crs-10gbe-and-40gbe-switches-for-2019/">https://www.servethehome.com/new-mikrotik-crs-10gbe-and-40gbe-switches-for-2019/</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Pricing TBA</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Stuart Campbell <A href="mailto:scampbell-2w95/[email protected]"><FONT color=#0000ff>{scampbell-2w95/[email protected]}</FONT></A> <BR>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Mikrotik Trainer &amp; Consultant, MTCNA, MTCWE, MTCRE, MTCTCE, MTCSE, MTCINE<BR>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Managing Director, Campbell Technology Ltd<BR>Phone: +64-4-802-7800 xtn 126 &nbsp;Fax: +64-4-802-7809<BR>Mobile: +64-21-482-827 <BR><BR><A href="http://www.campbell.co.nz"><FONT color=#0000ff>http://www.campbell.co.nz</FONT></A></DIV>
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<DIV>Regarding:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=red>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Whilst on topic has anyone come accross reasonably priced 802.3bz<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;supporting switches &nbsp;aka 10G Copper with Fallback based on Media<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Capability?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Netgear and Buffalo were the only two I found that were anywhere close to<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;reasonably priced (1000$ odd); and then there is a long list of Wireless<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;AX ap's that have a port of it which is not useful.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 14:00, Joel Wiramu Pauling &lt;[email protected]&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;wrote:<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Do the edgecore do proper hybrid vlan? Aka Routing Any to Any (including<BR>&nbsp;
 &gt;&gt; &nbsp;untagged AKA native)?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>
&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;That was a major drawback of the Routerboard range.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;I'm still a big fan of anything running Openwrt mainline; and I still find<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;that cheap j1900 /n3560 ATOM braswell based ones with x86 are far more<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;flexible than anything commercially bundled.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;You can get a 4 port j1900 for 50$ and if you want to do Layer3 stuff then<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;the 3160 version is another 100$ or so (and includes AES-NX).<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Point me at something that can do Layer3 routing at 5Gbit with high<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;PPS/small packets with encryption for that price point that doesn't come<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;with weirdne
 ss - I have been looking for a while.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>
&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 13:39, Richard Hector &lt;[email protected]&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;wrote:<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Thanks Jonathan,<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;That's the second suggestion I've had for Edge-core (and that model in<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;particular).<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;I'd forgotten (if I knew) about the link with Accton - I put in quite a<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;few Accton hubs and (ISA) NICs in the 90's.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Cheers,<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Richard<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;On 28/06/19 1:30 PM, Jonathan Brewer wrote:<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Hi Richard,<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; I've had good e
 xperience with EdgeCore products, and I know a few<BR>
&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; providers in New Zealand have been using them in their networks for 10+<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; years now.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; They have a model that looks like what you<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; want: <A href="https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=438092"><FONT color=#0000ff>https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=438092</FONT></A><BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; The full description from SnapperNet indicates it has CLI<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; too.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;<A href="https://www.snappernet.co.nz/product/912/edgecore-ecs2100-10t-8-port-10-1"><FONT color=#0000ff>https://www.snappernet.co.nz/product/912/edgecore-ecs2100-10t-8-port-10-1</FO
 NT></A><BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;00-1000-mbps-gigabit-managed-switch-with-2-gigabit-sfp-slots<BR>
&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Accton, EdgeCore's parent company, also manufactures Facebook's 100G<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; datacentre switches, the IgniteNet line of mmWave radios, and probably<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; some other OEM stuff I have no idea about.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Cheers,<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Jon<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 08:03, Richard Hector &lt;[email protected]<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &lt;mailto:[email protected]&gt;&gt; wrote:<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Hi all,<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; I hope this isn't too far off topic.<BR>&nbsp;
 &gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>
&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; What's available in the way of managed switches (at least including<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; 802.1q VLANs) at a suitable price for a small office?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; The (8-port) one I bought 4 years ago, even at the time the https ui<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; didn't work, because browsers had stopped supporting old certs or<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; ciphers or something. I raised it with the wholesaler, who raised it<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; with the manufacturer - no new firmware ever came out. I couldn't load<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; my own cert onto it either.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Is there anything better around, at a reasonable price?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>
 &nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; I'm not keen on what I understand is the cisco model either, where you<BR>
&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; have to maintain a support contract to get any updates.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Stretching even further - I don't suppose there's anything out there<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; with fully Free (as in freedom) firmware? Does SDN give us that?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Feel free to reply off-list if you don't want to promote (or disparage)<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; your suppliers (or self) in public :-)<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Cheers,<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Richard<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; NZNOG mailing list<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; <A href="mailto:[email protected]">
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