Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

Shane Ronan <[email protected]> Fri, 1 Dec 2023 12:46:03 -0500
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If you want money from the government to subsidize your network, you'll
follow their rules...

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:39=E2=80=AFPM Tom Mitchell <tmitchell@netelastic.=
com>
wrote:

> Not sure we need the FCC telling us how to build products or run
> networks.  Seat belts are life-or-death, but bufferbloat is rarely fatal
> ;-)  Let it be a point of differentiation.
>
> -- Tom
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:56=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht <[email protected]> w=
rote:
>
>> Over here:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRL=
MBY4vH4/edit
>>
>> Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's
>> NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the
>> broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.
>>
>> "Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for
>> cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without
>> calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels,
>> (or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will
>> fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users
>> of the internet."
>>
>> Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux..=
.
>>
>>
>> --
>> :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab
>> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you want money from the government to subsidize your ne=
twork, you&#39;ll follow their rules...</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:39=E2=80=
=AFPM Tom Mitchell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">tmitchel=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83=
,148)">Not sure we need the FCC telling us how to build products or run net=
works.=C2=A0 Seat belts are life-or-death, but bufferbloat is rarely fatal =
;-)=C2=A0 Let it be a point of differentiation.</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:s=
mall;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"color:rgb(11,83,148)">-- Tom</spa=
n></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:56=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">dave.taht@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex">Over here:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK=
-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.goo=
gle.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit</a><br=
>
<br>
Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC&#39;s<=
br>
NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the<br>
broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.<br>
<br>
&quot;Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for<br=
>
cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without<br>
calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels,<br>
(or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will<br>
fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users<br>
of the internet.&quot;<br>
<br>
Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux...<b=
r>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
:( My old R&amp;D campus is up for sale: <a href=3D"https://tinyurl.com/yur=
tlab" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab</a><=
br>
Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>

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