Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds
Mike Hammett <[email protected]> Fri, 1 Dec 2023 12:13:26 -0600 (CST)
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------=_Part_3501_2140902143.1701454401579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The FCC is currently posturing to feel relevant. While they're in one of th= ese modes, you're not going to stop them, but you might be able to redirect= them on a better path.=20 -----=20 Mike Hammett=20 Intelligent Computing Solutions=20 Midwest Internet Exchange=20 The Brothers WISP=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Mitchell" <[email protected]>=20 To: "Dave Taht" <[email protected]>=20 Cc: "NANOG" <[email protected]>, "NZNOG" <[email protected]>, "<ausnog= @lists.ausnog.net>" <[email protected]>=20 Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 11:38:10 AM=20 Subject: Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadba= nd speeds=20 Not sure we need the FCC telling us how to build products or run networks. = Seat belts are life-or-death, but bufferbloat is rarely fatal ;-) Let it be= a point of differentiation.=20 -- Tom=20 On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht < [email protected] > wrote:=20 Over here:=20 https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY= 4vH4/edit=20 Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's=20 NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the=20 broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.=20 "Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for=20 cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without=20 calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels,=20 (or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will=20 fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users=20 of the internet."=20 Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux...= =20 --=20 :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos=20 ------=_Part_3501_2140902143.1701454401579 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><style type=3D'text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><= div style=3D'font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; colo= r: #000000'>The FCC is currently posturing to feel relevant. While they're = in one of these modes, you're not going to stop them, but you might be able= to redirect them on a better path.<br><br><div><span name=3D"x"></span><br= style=3D"color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new roman';font-size:me= dium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacin= g:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space= :normal;word-spacing:0px"><br style=3D"color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'= times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;fon= t-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;te= xt-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color= :rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style= :normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-h= eight:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-sp= acing:0px;display:inline 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</b>"NANOG" <[email protected]>, "NZNOG" <[email protected].= ac.nz>, "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]>= ;<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, December 1, 2023 11:38:10 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>R= e: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds<= br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:t= rebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">Not sure we need the = FCC telling us how to build products or run networks. Seat belts are = life-or-death, but bufferbloat is rarely fatal ;-) Let it be a point = of differentiation.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:= trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"color= :rgb(11,83,148)">-- Tom</span></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D= "gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at= 4:56=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targe= t=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg= b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Over here:<br> <br> <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK= -QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.goo= gle.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit</a><br= > <br> Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's<br> NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the<br> broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.<br> <br> "Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for<br> cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without<br> calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels,<br> (or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will<br> fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users<br> of the internet."<br> <br> Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux...<b= r> <br> <br> -- <br> :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: <a href=3D"https://tinyurl.com/yur= tlab" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab</a><= br> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos<br> </blockquote></div> </div><br></div></body></html> ------=_Part_3501_2140902143.1701454401579--