Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

michael brooks - ESC <[email protected]> Fri, 1 Dec 2023 12:09:36 -0700
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As one beholden to USAC/FCC I have to agree with Shane...




michael brooks
Sr. Network Engineer
Adams 12 Five Star Schools
[email protected]
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"flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"



On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Tom Mitchell <tmitchell@netelastic.=
com>
wrote:

> Not sure we need the FCC telling us how to build products or run
> networks.  Seat belts are life-or-death, but bufferbloat is rarely fatal
> ;-)  Let it be a point of differentiation.
>
> -- Tom
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:56=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht <[email protected]> w=
rote:
>
>> Over here:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRL=
MBY4vH4/edit
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByja=
kzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit__;!!IR39LLzvxw!M_bC8YhyxVaDflZyWH=
jIqI3S_nFkGJi-hoTv9t_2pKc_5c68WnYm3nvy9SxIy0mdCEr2GVgtCcvNuGwxBWz84-A2Y2Ag$=
>
>>
>> Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's
>> NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the
>> broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.
>>
>> "Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for
>> cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without
>> calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels,
>> (or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will
>> fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users
>> of the internet."
>>
>> Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux..=
.
>>
>>
>> --
>> :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab__;!!IR39LLzvxw!=
M_bC8YhyxVaDflZyWHjIqI3S_nFkGJi-hoTv9t_2pKc_5c68WnYm3nvy9SxIy0mdCEr2GVgtCcv=
NuGwxBWz846BrgErs$>
>> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,=
serif">As one beholden to USAC/FCC I have to agree with Shane...</div><div>=
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gia, serif"><br></font><font color=3D"#20124d" style=3D"font-family:&quot;c=
ourier new&quot;,monospace">michael brooks</font><br></span><span style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;courier new&quot;,monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-s=
ize:13px">Sr. Network Engineer<br></span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;c=
ourier new&quot;,monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px">Adams 12 =
Five Star Schools</span><br></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;cou=
rier new&quot;,monospace"><font size=3D"2"><a href=3D"mailto:michael.brooks=
@adams12.org" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#999999">michael.brooks@adam=
s12.org</font></a><br></font></span><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(204,204,2=
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<div><font size=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;courier new&quot;,mo=
nospace"><span style=3D"color:rgb(204,204,204)">&quot;flying is learning ho=
w to throw yourself at the ground and miss&quot;</span><br></span></font></=
div></div><div><font size=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;courier ne=
w&quot;,monospace"><span style=3D"color:rgb(204,204,204)"><br></span></span=
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/div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=
=AFAM Tom Mitchell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">tmitchel=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83=
,148)">Not sure we need the FCC telling us how to build products or run net=
works.=C2=A0 Seat belts are life-or-death, but bufferbloat is rarely fatal =
;-)=C2=A0 Let it be a point of differentiation.</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:s=
mall;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"color:rgb(11,83,148)">-- Tom</spa=
n></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:56=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">dave.taht@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex">Over here:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1=
9ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit__;!!IR39LLzvxw!M_bC8YhyxVa=
DflZyWHjIqI3S_nFkGJi-hoTv9t_2pKc_5c68WnYm3nvy9SxIy0mdCEr2GVgtCcvNuGwxBWz84-=
A2Y2Ag$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum=
ent/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit</a><br>
<br>
Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC&#39;s<=
br>
NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the<br>
broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.<br>
<br>
&quot;Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for<br=
>
cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without<br>
calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels,<br>
(or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will<br>
fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users<br>
of the internet.&quot;<br>
<br>
Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux...<b=
r>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
:( My old R&amp;D campus is up for sale: <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/=
v3/__https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab__;!!IR39LLzvxw!M_bC8YhyxVaDflZyWHjIqI3S_nF=
kGJi-hoTv9t_2pKc_5c68WnYm3nvy9SxIy0mdCEr2GVgtCcvNuGwxBWz846BrgErs$" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab</a><br>
Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos<br>
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