Re: Yahoo Mail Delivery Issues

Dominic Schlegel <[email protected]> Tue, 17 Sep 2019 08:04:28 +0200
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Hi Thomas

Thank you for the pointer.

Regards
Dominic


> On 16 Sep 2019, at 22:08, Thomas Lademann <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi Dominic,
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> a good way to get in touch with these "big-ones" is usually the mailop =
mailing list.
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> there was a discussion some days ago because of their huge dns =
failure.
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> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08651.html =
<https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08651.html>
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> regards
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> Thomas Lademann
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> Am 16.09.19 um 15:51 schrieb Dominic Schlegel:
>> Hi All
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>> We are experiencing problems delivering mails for domains having =
their MX record set to mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net (for example =
yahoo.it, yahoo.de, yahoo.co.uk). So far we have figured out that =
Yahoo=E2=80=99s DNS servers send different responses. Depending on the =
DNS response we are able to establish SMTP connections. Below example =
shows 2 servers from their DNS that seems to accept SMTP connections:
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>> [root@x1:~] # dig a mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net @yf2.yahoo.com +short
>> 188.125.72.73
>> 188.125.72.74
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>> [root@x1:~] # telnet 188.125.72.73 25
>> Trying 188.125.72.73...
>> Connected to mtaproxy1.free.mail.vip.ir2.yahoo.com.
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>> [root@x1:~] # telnet 188.125.72.74 25
>> Trying 188.125.72.74...
>> Connected to mtaproxy2.free.mail.vip.ir2.yahoo.com.
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>> On the other hand we sometimes get other replies from the =E2=80=9Csame=
=E2=80=9D (the id.server chaos record tell=E2=80=99s us it=E2=80=99s a =
different one) DNS server with different A records that do not accept =
SMTP connections:
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>> [root@x1:~] # dig a mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net  @yf2.yahoo.com =
+short
>> 188.125.73.87
>> 212.82.101.46
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>> [root@x1:~] # telnet 188.125.73.87 25
>> Trying 188.125.73.87...
>> telnet: connect to address 188.125.73.87: Operation timed out
>> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
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>> [root@x1:~] # telnet 212.82.101.46 25
>> Trying 212.82.101.46...
>> telnet: connect to address 212.82.101.46: Operation timed out
>> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
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>> We have so far confirmed this behaviour from different AS (Hetzer, =
OVH). Does anybody else experiencing the same behaviour?
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>> We have tried to contact their postmaster address and few others we =
found on the internet. Unfortunately so far no one was really able to =
help us. The Yahoo Small Business Phone Number that has been posted on =
this list back in October 2009 seems no longer to be in operations too. =
Therefore if you know how to get in touch with their technical staff =
that would be much appreciated.
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>> Best Regards
>> Dominic Schlegel
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
Thomas<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thank you for =
the pointer.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Regards</div><div class=3D"">Dominic</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 16 Sep 2019, at 22:08, =
Thomas Lademann &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
class=3D"">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
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    <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
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  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D""><p class=3D"">Hi =
Dominic,</p><p class=3D"">a good way to get in touch with these =
"big-ones" is usually the
      mailop mailing list.</p><p class=3D"">there was a discussion some =
days ago because of their huge dns
      failure.<br class=3D"">
    </p><p class=3D""><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" =
href=3D"https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08651.html">http=
s://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08651.html</a></p><p =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">
    </p><p class=3D"">regards</p><p class=3D"">Thomas Lademann<br =
class=3D"">
    </p><p class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.09.19 um 15:51 schrieb Dominic
      Schlegel:<br class=3D"">
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cite=3D"mid:[email protected]" class=3D"">=

      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">Hi All

We are experiencing problems delivering mails for domains having their =
MX record set to <a href=3D"http://mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net" =
class=3D"">mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net</a> (for example yahoo.it, <a =
href=3D"http://yahoo.de" class=3D"">yahoo.de</a>, <a =
href=3D"http://yahoo.co.uk" class=3D"">yahoo.co.uk</a>). So far we have =
figured out that Yahoo=E2=80=99s DNS servers send different responses. =
Depending on the DNS response we are able to establish SMTP connections. =
Below example shows 2 servers from their DNS that seems to accept SMTP =
connections:

[root@x1:~] # dig a <a href=3D"http://mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net" =
class=3D"">mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net</a> @yf2.yahoo.com +short
188.125.72.73
188.125.72.74

[root@x1:~] # telnet 188.125.72.73 25
Trying 188.125.72.73...
Connected to mtaproxy1.free.mail.vip.ir2.<a href=3D"http://yahoo.com" =
class=3D"">yahoo.com</a>.

[root@x1:~] # telnet 188.125.72.74 25
Trying 188.125.72.74...
Connected to mtaproxy2.free.mail.vip.ir2.<a href=3D"http://yahoo.com" =
class=3D"">yahoo.com</a>.

On the other hand we sometimes get other replies from the =E2=80=9Csame=E2=
=80=9D (the id.server chaos record tell=E2=80=99s us it=E2=80=99s a =
different one) DNS server with different A records that do not accept =
SMTP connections:

[root@x1:~] # dig a <a href=3D"http://mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net" =
class=3D"">mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net</a>  @yf2.yahoo.com +short
188.125.73.87
212.82.101.46

[root@x1:~] # telnet 188.125.73.87 25
Trying 188.125.73.87...
telnet: connect to address 188.125.73.87: Operation timed out
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host

[root@x1:~] # telnet 212.82.101.46 25
Trying 212.82.101.46...
telnet: connect to address 212.82.101.46: Operation timed out
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host


We have so far confirmed this behaviour from different AS (Hetzer, OVH). =
Does anybody else experiencing the same behaviour?

We have tried to contact their postmaster address and few others we =
found on the internet. Unfortunately so far no one was really able to =
help us. The Yahoo Small Business Phone Number that has been posted on =
this list back in October 2009 seems no longer to be in operations too. =
Therefore if you know how to get in touch with their technical staff =
that would be much appreciated.


Best Regards
Dominic Schlegel

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