Re: [Sum] Improving the Who Column (nee Chandler IMAP folders and the mail-stamp)

https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10961

Okay, I logged a bug for this with your caveats in there and assign  
it to myself. I think I'd like to wait for more feedback on this  
before implementing this tweak. Perhaps wait for users to ramp up on  
sharing scenarios and/or using the addressing fields to attach who- 
ness to items.

The prevalence of 'cr/ed me' your experience may be a symptom of an  
unclear Who column design and perhaps generally making the Who column  
more useful to people will end up being a better way to address this  
problem.

Does that sound reasonable?

Mimi

On Oct 4, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Philippe Bossut wrote:

> Hi Mimi,
>
> Well, that resumes my position fairly well and I'll stand by this  
> writing :)
> It's true about the items that are collaboratively edited. May be  
> we could do a sort of double check on the whole history of the item  
> as in: if the item has been created by <me> and consistently on  
> only edited by <me> then display nothing in the Who column. Not  
> sure this is an easy to extract info though. Conceptually, it's how  
> I saw the "blank == <me>" in my head.
>
> Cheers,
> - Philippe
>
> Mimi Yin wrote:
>> Hey Philippe
>>
>> Could you take a look at this when you have a moment? I didn't log  
>> a bug for this feature b/c I ran into some design issues. Would  
>> like to get your input.
>>
>> Mimi
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> *Open Issues*
>>> Philippe also had a suggestion for suppressing 'Created by' and  
>>> 'Edited by' in the Who column for non-message items, even if  
>>> those items are shared. This would in effect, leave the column  
>>> blank whenever 'you' create or edit a none-message item.
>>>
>>> There's been little controversy over suppressing this metadata  
>>> for non-shared items. However, the thinking behind showing it for  
>>> shared items was that it was useful for people to see what items  
>>> they cr/ed versus what items other people cr/ed. However,  
>>> Philippe pointed out that:
>>>
>>> + Even when collections are shared, they are often shared for the  
>>> sake of sharing with yourself, not with others; OR they are  
>>> shared with others who don't really edit the items very much. So  
>>> mostly, all the items are cr/ed by 'me'.
>>> + For collections that are shared with and actively edited by  
>>> others, users can still infer that they cr/ed an item by the lack  
>>> of metadata in the Who column. In other words, blank Who column =  
>>> cr/ed by 'me'.
>>>
>>> I was about to log this bug and describe the above behavior.  
>>> However, I realized that there is the funny case where you have a  
>>> shared item that was last edited by someone else and then you  
>>> come along and edit it and the Who column goes blank. Is that too  
>>> weird?
>>>
>>> Mimi
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
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