Re: [Proposal] What is Chandler supposed to do anyway?

D John Anderson <[email protected]> Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:42:28 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.org.osaf.design
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I agree with Hank's assessment of the importance of this issue as a  
priority for 1.0.

On Dec 10, 2007, at 2:10 PM, hank williams wrote:

> On Dec 10, 2007 4:33 PM, Mimi Yin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just to clarify: There is no design argument against separating
>> application areas and views. It's more a matter of implementing the
>> UI elements needed to do this in a way that doesn't visually
>> overwhelm the interface. (Something we're already struggling with.)
>
> Indeed this is always a struggle. But the number one issue is
> understanding the data model. I do believe it is possible to fix this
> issue without overwhelming. Indeed some of the things you have already
> suggested, like removing all those mail icons, helps enormously. My
> suggestions help lighten the menu bar - which will be lighter anyway
> without the utility menus.
>
>> The decision to combine app areas + filter functionality boiled down
>> to prioritization. (In the Chandler Hub UI, we have a different take
>> on this problem. We *only* have views, no application areas.) We
>> should revisit this issue in the context of our post 1.0 plans.
>>
>
> I don't have any insight into what the difficulties are in making
> various changes or your roadmap plans. But in my view, the way that
> views currently work is so confusing that I think you will loose well
> more than 50% of your potential users because they do not understand.
> I say that only because, after spending many hours over the weekend
> with the software I am still not entirely clear how the views and
> filtering works. And I figure if that is the case with me, casual
> users will, for the most part, give up.
>
> I therefore suggest that this issue be a priority for 1.0 because, as
> humbly as I can suggest this, if I am confused, precious few will not
> be.
>
> You are so close to something that really is a friendly piece of
> software. I'd just love to see you guys make it over the usability
> finish line.
>
> Hank
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