Re: [chandler-dev] Helllo?

Joe Armstrong <[email protected]> Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:09:12 +0100
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On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Doug Wellington <[email protected]>wrote:

> I use Chandler every day.  Nothing else works as well for me.
>
> I've been working on the code a bit as I have time.  What kind of
> questions do you have?
>

Let me explain - for many years I have been thinking about how to organize
information.
I like the idea of small fragments of information that mutate and change. I
have looked
at the tiddly wiki and then bumped into chandler. I also have my own ideas
on
finding similar data in masses of information.

I quickly hacked together a web front-end similar to
https://hub.chandlerproject.org/pim
The letter web interface is surprisingly intuative. I did however have a
few design questions:

1) What is the underlying data model of an entry in the to do list

   I can see that entries have

   - a collection (ie which collection they belong to)
   - a star
   - a title
   - an author
   - a starts on date
   - a text

(ie in javascript/JSON

   {collection:'foo', star:false, title:'....', author:'.....', ...}
)


But what else? Do they have a GUID (Global Id)?

2) What about ordering - is the NOW ordered (for example) random, or what?

3) is history preserved - can I roll back to an earlier time

4) Do entries have parents?

etc.

These are all design questions.

I originally wanted to keep the front-end and re-implement the backend -
but the
front-end used the dojo framework and life is too short to learn everything
- so I hacked
together some HTML/jquery stuff that more or less replicates the hub
version.

I just pushed it to

https://github.com/joearms/chandler

Cheers

/Joe


>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
>
> > On Sunday, February 17, 2013 06:40:56 PM Joe Armstrong wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > I recently came across the chandler project and signed up for
> > > https://hub.chandlerproject.org/ -
> > >
> > > I was very impressed (and I'm not easily impressed) -
> > > especially by the design philosophy and the thought behind this.
> > >
> > > I read http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/Vision this has several
> > > very insightful comments
> > > also http://chandlerproject.org/Notes/MimiYinNotes
> > >
> > > Is this project still active?
> > >
> > > Could  MiniYin mail me - I have a load of questions.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > /Joe Armstrong<hr>_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> >
> > Open Source Applications Foundation "chandler-dev" mailing list
> > http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandler-dev
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>
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Doug We=
llington <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">
I use Chandler every day. =A0Nothing else works as well for me.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve been working on the code a bit as I have time. =A0What kind of<br>
questions do you have?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Let me explain -=
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v><div>I like the idea of small fragments of information that mutate and ch=
ange. I have looked</div>
<div>at the tiddly wiki and then bumped into chandler. I also have my own i=
deas on</div><div>finding similar data in masses of information.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>I quickly hacked together a web front-end similar to=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"https://hub.chandlerproject.org/pim">https://hub.chandlerproject.org/=
pim</a></div>
<div>The letter web interface is surprisingly intuative. I did however have=
 a few design questions:</div><div><br></div><div>1) What is the underlying=
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 can see that entries have</div>
<div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0</div><div>=A0 =A0- a collection (ie which collection t=
hey belong to)</div><div>=A0 =A0- a star</div><div>=A0 =A0- a title</div><d=
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- a text</div><div><br></div>
<div>(ie in javascript/JSON</div><div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0{collection:&#3=
9;foo&#39;, star:false, title:&#39;....&#39;, author:&#39;.....&#39;, ...}<=
/div><div>)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>But what else? Do they =
have a GUID (Global Id)?</div>
<div><br></div><div>2) What about ordering - is the NOW ordered (for exampl=
e) random, or what?</div><div><br></div><div>3) is history preserved - can =
I roll back to an earlier time</div><div><br></div><div>4) Do entries have =
parents?</div>
<div><br></div><div>etc.</div><div><br></div><div>These are all design ques=
tions.</div><div><br></div><div>I originally wanted to keep the front-end a=
nd re-implement the backend - but the</div><div>front-end used the dojo fra=
mework and life is too short to learn everything - so I hacked</div>
<div>together some HTML/jquery stuff that more or less replicates the hub v=
ersion.</div><div><br></div><div>I just pushed it to</div><div><br></div><d=
iv><a href=3D"https://github.com/joearms/chandler">https://github.com/joear=
ms/chandler</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>/Joe</div><div>=A0</div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Regards,<br>
Doug<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
&gt; On Sunday, February 17, 2013 06:40:56 PM Joe Armstrong wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Hello.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I recently came across the chandler project and signed up for<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://hub.chandlerproject.org/" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://hub.chandlerproject.org/</a> -<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I was very impressed (and I&#39;m not easily impressed) -<br>
&gt; &gt; especially by the design philosophy and the thought behind this.<=
br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I read <a href=3D"http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/Vision" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/Vision</a> this has seve=
ral<br>
&gt; &gt; very insightful comments<br>
&gt; &gt; also <a href=3D"http://chandlerproject.org/Notes/MimiYinNotes" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://chandlerproject.org/Notes/MimiYinNotes</a><br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Is this project still active?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Could =A0MiniYin mail me - I have a load of questions.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
</div>&gt; &gt; /Joe Armstrong&lt;hr&gt;_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Open Source Applications Foundation &quot;chandler-dev&quot; mailing l=
ist<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandler-de=
v" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandl=
er-dev</a><br>
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