Get Started Guide - New navigation

Mimi Yin <mimi-6zGkXsw2EZWGJGYlWa3Ukdi2O/[email protected]> Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:36:30 -0700
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Hi Pieter,

I took a quick look at the "Collaborating with Others" chapter of the  
GSG and it's much improved now with the sub-sections called out at  
the top of the page.

Clicking around, I was somewhat confused with the navigation.

1. The "How Do I" list are sub-sections of the Chapters listed on the  
right-hand side...but it's challenging to keep the sub-section  
numbers and the chapter numbers straight. Katie suggested that it  
might be clearer if we used a Major.Minor numbering system. So for  
"Collaborating with Others", which is Chapter 5, the sub-sections  
would be labeled 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3.

2. We should further reinforce the numbering system by labeling the  
titles of the sub-sections with their corresponding numbers. 5.1:  
Chandler's approach to collaboration. I think this is especially  
necessary because we don't have a way to highlight in the list, which  
sub-section you are currently looking at.

As an aside: 5.1 should probably be either "Understanding Chandler's  
approach to collaboration" or just simply "Chandler's approach to  
collaboration". I think "Understand Chandler's approach..." sounds  
like an imperative.

3.The 3rd sub-section is a cross-link to a sub-section of the  
previous Chapter. So it shouldn't be enumerated.

4. The 4th sub-section is actually just a link to the next Chapter,  
6. So shouldn't be labeled as a sub-section.
(I don't think you need this in the sub-section list at all, given  
that the full list of chapters is ever-present on the right-hand side  
and you provide a link to the next chapter at the bottom of the page.)

Actually, should the link at the bottom of 5.1, take you to 5.2 and  
5.2 take you to 5.3?

===
Proposed titling scheme:

5.1 Chandler's approach to collaboration
5.2 Schedule an informal activity
5.3 Collaboration Use Cases

===

5. The "What is Chandler?" section at the top of the "Chandler's  
approach to collaboration" section seemed out of place. Similarly,  
the "Chandler Target User" section at the top of the "Collaboration  
Use Cases is out of place. The title at the top of these two pages  
should match the titles I clicked on in the list.

6. I find the jump-linking effect a bit disorienting. Since each of  
the sub-sections is its own page, I wonder if the jump-linking is  
necessary. I actually think it helps to keep the sub-section list in  
view as I navigate. It helps me maintain a sense of context. The jump- 
link effect misleads me into think that I just jumped down the page,  
but then when I scroll up, the content I used to see isn't there  
anymore.

Mimi


On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Katie Capps Parlante wrote:

> I spoke with Pieter on Friday about next steps for the Getting  
> Started Guide, and here is what we came up with:
>
> - Chapter on Triage Workflow (using Mimi's input)
> - Chapter on Calendaring (Bug 10412)
> - Glossary
> - Index (basically a list of the "How do I?" headings)
> - Final sweep of copy edits
> - Final sweep updating links (Bug 10706)
>
> Pieter expected this work to take ~1 week.
>
> In general I'm looking to wrap up most doc tasks by Sept 10 (next  
> Monday).
>
> Cheers,
> Katie
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
> Open Source Applications Foundation "General" mailing list
> http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/general


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<HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; =
-khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Pieter,<DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I took a quick look at the =
"Collaborating with Others" chapter of the GSG and it's much improved =
now with the sub-sections called out at the top of the =
page.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Clicking =
around, I was somewhat confused with the navigation.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>1. The "How Do I" list are =
sub-sections of the Chapters listed on the right-hand side...but it's =
challenging to keep the sub-section numbers and the chapter numbers =
straight. Katie suggested that it might be clearer if we used a =
Major.Minor numbering system.=A0So for "Collaborating with Others", =
which is Chapter 5, the sub-sections would be labeled 5.1, 5.2 and =
5.3.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>2. We =
should further reinforce the numbering system by labeling the titles of =
the sub-sections with their corresponding numbers. 5.1: Chandler's =
approach to collaboration. I think this is especially necessary because =
we don't have a way to highlight in the list, which sub-section you are =
currently looking at.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>As an aside: 5.1 should =
probably be either "Understanding Chandler's approach to collaboration" =
or just simply "Chandler's approach to collaboration". I think =
"Understand Chandler's approach..." sounds like an =
imperative.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>3.The 3rd sub-section is a =
cross-link to a sub-section of the previous Chapter. So it shouldn't be =
enumerated.=A0</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>4. The 4th sub-section is =
actually just a link to the next Chapter, 6. So shouldn't be labeled as =
a sub-section.</DIV><DIV>(I don't think you need this in the sub-section =
list at all, given that the full list of chapters is ever-present on the =
right-hand side and you provide a link to the next chapter at the bottom =
of the page.)</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Actually, should the link =
at the bottom of 5.1, take you to 5.2 and 5.2 take you to =
5.3?</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>=3D=3D=3D</DIV><DIV>Proposed =
titling scheme:</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span">5.1=A0Chandler's approach to =
collaboration</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span">5.2=A0Schedule an informal =
activity</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"><I>5.3=A0</I>Collaboration Use =
Cases</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>=3D=3D=3D</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>5. The "What is Chandler?" =
section at the top of the "Chandler's approach to collaboration" section =
seemed out of place. Similarly, the "Chandler Target User" section at =
the top of the "Collaboration Use Cases is out of place. The title at =
the top of these two pages should match the titles I clicked on in the =
list.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>6. I =
find the jump-linking effect a bit disorienting. Since each of the =
sub-sections is its own page, I wonder if the jump-linking is necessary. =
I actually think it helps to keep the sub-section list in view as I =
navigate. It helps me maintain a sense of context. The jump-link effect =
misleads me into think that I just jumped down the page, but then when I =
scroll up, the content I used to see isn't there anymore.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Mimi</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 4, =
2007, at 11:43 AM, Katie Capps Parlante wrote:</DIV><BR =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">I spoke with Pieter on Friday about next steps for =
the Getting Started Guide, and here is what we came up with:</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- =
Chapter on Triage Workflow (using Mimi's input)</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">- Chapter on Calendaring (Bug 10412)</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">- Glossary</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- Index =
(basically a list of the "How do I?" headings)</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">- Final sweep of copy edits</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">- Final sweep updating links (Bug 10706)</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Pieter =
expected this work to take ~1 week.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">In general I'm looking to wrap =
up most doc tasks by Sept 10 (next Monday).</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">Cheers,</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Katie</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _</DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Open =
Source Applications Foundation "General" mailing list</DIV><DIV =
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