Re: Fwd: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date on chandlerproject.org
Reid Ellis <rae-6zGkXsw2EZWGJGYlWa3Ukdi2O/[email protected]> Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:22:38 -0400
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--===============1030170436== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--917805795 --Apple-Mail-1--917805795 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I would avoid nn/nn/nn for dates, and stick with "Oct 10, 2007"-style dates. I don't think a version number is useful, and may even be confusing for Chandler Hub -- "Uh-oh, I only have Chandler 0.7.x and the Hub is at 0.8.x -- will they work together ok??" Was the reversing of "version product date" between server and desktop around the countdown deliberate? Reid On Oct 11, 2007, at 14:34, Mimi Yin wrote: > Moving this discussion over to the General List. > > 1. The top bar (where currently there is only: Open Source > Applications Foundation) was intended to display 'news items' like > new releases. (See mock-up.) > > 2. We should probably have release numbers for both Desktop, Hub > and Server, which should take care of Heikki's layout concerns. > > 3. The lack of a green download arrow for 'Download Server' is > deliberate just as Jeffrey said. (Our problem doesn't seem to be > that people can't find it, but that it's still too prominent for > many end-users!) > > We have a longer-term problem however. Since Server/Desktop > releases are no longer in lock-step, what happens when the Server > is at 0.8.1? and the Desktop is at 0.7.8 or vice versa? What do we > display in the top area? I have a proposed solution in the mockup > below. The layout of the release timeline is rather complex, so it > might need to be a graphic. > > Mimi > > <DoReleases.png> > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Davor Cubranic <[email protected]> >> Date: October 11, 2007 11:01:57 AM PDT >> To: Developer Discussions <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date on >> chandlerproject.org >> Reply-To: Developer Discussions <chandler- >> [email protected]> >> >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Reid Ellis wrote: >> >>> We could keep the top text/graphic at "0.7" and mention the version >>> number next to the product download areas. See mock-up: http:// >>> clith.com/chandler.html >> >> This is much better. Would the date under the timeline be for the >> latest >> release (0.7.1, in this case)? >> >> Davor >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> >> Open Source Applications Foundation "chandler-dev" mailing list >> http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandler-dev > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > Open Source Applications Foundation "General" mailing list > http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/general --Apple-Mail-1--917805795 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would avoid nn/nn/nn for = dates, and stick with "Oct 10, 2007"-style dates.<DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I don't think a version = number is useful, and may even be confusing for Chandler Hub -- "Uh-oh, = I only have Chandler 0.7.x and the Hub is at 0.8.x -- will they work = together ok??"</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Was the reversing of = "version product date" between server and desktop around the countdown = deliberate?</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Reid<DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On = Oct 11, 2007, at 14:34, Mimi Yin wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE = type=3D"cite">Moving this discussion over to the General List.<DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>1. The top bar (where = currently there is only: Open Source Applications Foundation) was = intended to display 'news items' like new releases. (See = mock-up.)</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>2. = We should probably have release numbers for both Desktop, Hub and = Server, which should take care of Heikki's layout = concerns.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>3. = The lack of a green download arrow for 'Download Server' is deliberate = just as Jeffrey said. (Our problem doesn't seem to be that people can't = find it, but that it's still too prominent for many = end-users!)</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>We = have a longer-term problem however. Since Server/Desktop releases are no = longer in lock-step, what happens when the Server is at 0.8.1? and the = Desktop is at 0.7.8 or vice versa? What do we display in the top area? I = have a proposed solution in the mockup below. The layout of the release = timeline is rather complex, so it might need to be a = graphic.</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Mimi</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><DIV><D= oReleases.png></DIV></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN></SPAN><BR><DIV><BR><DIV>Be= gin forwarded message:</DIV><BR = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: = </B></FONT><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">Davor Cubranic <<A = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>></FONT></DIV>= <DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: = </B></FONT><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">October 11, 2007 11:01:57 AM PDT</FONT></DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Developer = Discussions <<A = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= afoundation.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face=3D"Helvetica"= size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [Chandler-dev] = Release number and date on chandlerproject.org</B></FONT></DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Reply-To: = </B></FONT><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">Developer Discussions <<A = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= afoundation.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Reid Ellis = wrote:</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> = <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">We could keep the top = text/graphic at "0.7" and mention the version</DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">number next to the product download areas. See = mock-up: http://</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">clith.com/chandler.html</DIV> = </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">This is much better. Would the date under the = timeline be for the latest</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">release = (0.7.1, in this case)?</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; = "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Davor</DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _</DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Open = Source Applications Foundation "chandler-dev" mailing list</DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><A = href=3D"http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandler-dev">http= ://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandler-dev</A></DIV> = </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_ _ _ _ _ _ _ = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; = "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Open Source Applications = Foundation "General" mailing list</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A = href=3D"http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/general">http://li= sts.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/general</A></DIV> = </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>= --Apple-Mail-1--917805795-- --===============1030170436== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Open Source Applications Foundation "General" mailing list http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/general --===============1030170436==--