Re: [Chandler-dev] Talkback, feedback...

It would also be very useful to get feedback from python asserts -- i.e. 
the asserts most of us add to the Chandler code. Today the release 
version of Chandler ignores all asserts.

John

Heikki Toivonen wrote:
> I've been working on a talkback-like functionality for Chandler.
> (Talkback is a proprietary crash reporting system used for example by
> Mozilla. You can query the public data here:
> http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp) We'd need a
> different name than talkback so suggestions welcome...
>
> Although the original talkback is about reporting hard crashes with
> C/C++ stack traces, the Chandler feedback mechanism is intended to
> enable users to report uncaught Python tracebacks with additional system
> etc. info. (I think I saw mention that wxWidgets has some crash
> reporting system in place as well but I haven't researched further.)
>
> I have the client side code pretty much done expect for the lines of
> code that actually send the report.
>
> I recently saw mention that people have done these for webapps as well
> (http://www.fogcreek.com/FogBUGZ/help/UsingFogBUGZtoGetCrashRep.html),
> which is why I decided to cross-post to cosmo and scooby lists in case
> there is some interest.
>
> Jared and I have been thinking a little bit about the server side, and
> now would be good time to get some feedback on that.
>
> We think most reliable way, and easiest to implement both client and
> server side and operate on the server side would be to use http (or
> perhaps https) to communicate the feedback.
>
> We'd like to start simple. In fact as simple as just using HTTP POST to
> send a single text file. I guess we are not sure if we'd prefer simple
> XML or just plain text. Plain text would be easy to grep etc., but there
> are some things in the feedback that span several lines which makes XML
> more attractive (user comments, traceback, ...). With the right kind of
> XML most of plain text file benefits could still be achieved.
>
> We could handle different applications and application versions by
> posting to different URLs.
>
> Depending on how many reports we get, we might need to batch process the
> reports into database and/or index them with some text search system.
> Another alternative would also be to start discarding reports after a
> certain period of time or certain number of reports - after all the most
> valuable reports tend to come in soon after a release.
>
> We'd then have simple query/display app where you could search by
> incident id, stack signature etc. or perhaps by regex. Due to privacy
> concerns we may want to limit the full reports to OSAF staff, but
> showing stack info etc. should be free for all. I should be possible to
> associate reports with bugs.
>
> By the way, all of this server side stuff would also be open source.
> With the simplest possible solutions we could get the server side up in
> a day.
>
> So, any interest? Suggestions?
>
> Reply-To set to general.
>
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