Re: Wiki madness
Mitch Kapor <mitch-6zGkXsw2EZWGJGYlWa3Ukdi2O/[email protected]> Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:16:49 -0800
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To be honest, I wasn't thrilled with any of the many wiki alternatives. None of them even came close to the kind of collaborative tool I'd like to see. The great advantage of wikis is that they are easy to set up and get going with. There were offsetting pluses and minuses to each of the several variants, not only having to do with features but also such things as the ability to roll back to an earlier version in case there was malicious or unintentional damage to a very open system. What drove the decision to use any twiki was to have something, rather than nothing, and to have a something that could be improved on as needed. I'll also say that none of us who have worked on putting up the wiki had prior experience using it as a tool to promote collaboration, which stands in contrast to prior experience designing applications software. So we're going up the learning curve in setting it up. What would be useful and helpful is feedback on specific problems and specific suggestions on what you think can be done to improve it and make it more useable. At 12:37 AM 1/14/2003, Erik Moeller wrote: >On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 21:01, [email protected] wrote: > > Let me say this up front... pardon me. Please. > > > > I have to say I cannot fathom how the OSAF Wiki works, and the > interface leaves > > me discouraged to try harder. > >Of course I warned OSAF from the beginning that this would happen: > >http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2002-October/000338.html >-> problems with CamelCase syntax >http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2002-October/000381.html >-> problems with TWiki > >Had they decided to use Wikipedia, as I recommended, there would be no >such usability problems now. I have just setup another Wikipedia and the >complaint that it is too encyclopedia-centric is not understandable. You >just have to replace all instances of "Wikipedia" with whatever you >want. Now the OSAF wiki already has nightmare-inducing links like >"RepresentUserImprovingMemoryAndImprovingSkills". That this kind of >nonsense is tolerated does not bode well for the usability of future >Chandler products. :-( > >Regards, > >Erik >-- >FOKUS - Fraunhofer Insitute for Open Communication Systems >Project BerliOS - http://www.berlios.de > >_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > >Open Source Applications Foundation "Process" mailing list >http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/process _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Open Source Applications Foundation "Process" mailing list http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/process