Wiki update and plans
Mitchell Baker <Mitchell-6zGkXsw2EZWGJGYlWa3Ukdi2O/[email protected]> Sun, 08 Dec 2002 23:29:37 -0800
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--------------060105010804080005070009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone! We've known we need something wiki-like for quite a while. Mitch noted the need in October, and then OSAF realized we didn't yet know enough to get started. Before launching a wiki-style tool, we needed to figure out what type of wiki to use, and how OSAF would try to work with the wiki. We've done some more work and here's our proposal. * *Style of wiki.** Al and Morgan have evaluated the various wikis, and believe the twiki is the best choice for us right now. It supports customization, HTML editing, and we've had good experiences with our internal test instance. We'll be able to implement a twiki faster and more easily, and that's critical. As to the other options, zwikis appeared to make it harder to do some basic functions, such as signing on new users and creating templates. Wikipedia has its strengths, but its focus on the encyclopedia metaphor doesn't quite match our plans. So we'll start with a twiki. We know some will prefer another tool, but hopefully that preference can be assuaged by actually having +some+ tool to use. * *Working with the wiki.** Our initial goals for the wiki include: Promoting collaborative development among community members; and Organizing input in such a way that OSAF staff can respond more efficiently. We're not ready for anything as precise as the Zope fishbowl process, but we also hope the wiki will be something more than random postings. To do this, we plan the initial wiki to have two basic elements. One is free form, where participants can develop various ways of working collaboratively and we'll all learn what works well. We'll suggest a style guide and some basic conventions. This area may be somewhat chaotic at first, but we anticipate that good ideas will emerge from the diversity. The second element will be a more structured area, built on OSAF staff's initial guess as to how we can process information efficiently. In this area, we'll create a Chandler Topic Schema. This is a (hopefully) logical deconstruction of the Chandler project into constituent elements, which Chao is currently developing. You should see an initial proposal from Chao shortly. We'll also provide some examples of the sort of information we'd hope to see posted in the various Topics, covering both subject matter and completeness of ideas, and using the proposed style guide and basic conventions. The goal is that someone can go to a particular Topic, and get an idea of the status for that topic. The status could include things such as the official "plan of record" if there is one, a description of current OSAF thinking, proposals for incorporating new ideas, etc, pointers to relevant information, related APIs, etc. Ducky Sherwood has volunteered to help us get this information pulled together, and will be working closely with Chao and I. In particular, Chao and Ducky will be working on examples of a few Topics this week, which we plan to post for feedback as soon as practical. We'll also want to make some decisions about how we'll use this part of the wiki -- will we have formal editors, etc. Having a few examples should be enormously helpful for this discussion. Many thanks to everyone who made suggestions and prodded us to get started. I won't name people individually because that approach almost invariably leaves someone out. So I'll simply say that your input is greatly appreciated. *Timeline and administrative topics* Chao and Ducky will aim to post sample style guides and basic conventions early this week. Once there's a basic consensus on these the free-form area will be implemented. The structured area will take a bit longer. Chao will post the proposed Chandler Topic Schema as soon as possible. Chao and Ducky will create the examples described above, we can all think about how we might use this area of the wiki, and we'll go from there. Our wiki will not require the use of CamelCaps. Those who want to can use them, and those who don't can avoid them. As to registration, it will be necessary to register once each session to edit or create documents. It will be possible to register anonymously, using "GuestAccount" and "guest" as the password. If your browser remembers passwords forever, you should only need to type the account and password info once. Please let me know if this plan sounds workable. I'm sure it's not perfect. Mitchell --------------060105010804080005070009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed; font-size: 13px;" lang="x-western"><br> Hi everyone!<br> <br> We've known we need something wiki-like for quite a while. Mitch noted the need in October, and then OSAF realized we didn't yet know enough to get started. Before launching a wiki-style tool, we needed to figure out what type of wiki to use, and how OSAF would try to work with the wiki. We've done some more work and here's our proposal.<br> <b><br> *Style of wiki.*</b><br> <br> Al and Morgan have evaluated the various wikis, and believe the twiki is the best choice for us right now. It supports customization, HTML editing, and we've had good experiences with our internal test instance. We'll be able to implement a twiki faster and more easily, and that's critical. As to the other options, zwikis appeared to make it harder to do some basic functions, such as signing on new users and creating templates. Wikipedia has its strengths, but its focus on the encyclopedia metaphor doesn't quite match our plans.<br> <br> So we'll start with a twiki. We know some will prefer another tool, but hopefully that preference can be assuaged by actually having +some+ tool to use. <br> <b><br> *Working with the wiki.*</b><br> <br> Our initial goals for the wiki include:<br> <br> Promoting collaborative development among community members; and<br> Organizing input in such a way that OSAF staff can respond more efficiently. <br> <br> We're not ready for anything as precise as the Zope fishbowl process, but we also hope the wiki will be something more than random postings. To do this, we plan the initial wiki to have two basic elements. One is free form, where participants can develop various ways of working collaboratively and we'll all learn what works well. We'll suggest a style guide and some basic conventions. This area may be somewhat chaotic at first, but we anticipate that good ideas will emerge from the diversity.<br> <br> The second element will be a more structured area, built on OSAF staff's initial guess as to how we can process information efficiently. In this area, we'll create a Chandler Topic Schema. This is a (hopefully) logical deconstruction of the Chandler project into constituent elements, which Chao is currently developing. You should see an initial proposal from Chao shortly. We'll also provide some examples of the sort of information we'd hope to see posted in the various Topics, covering both subject matter and completeness of ideas, and using the proposed style guide and basic conventions. The goal is that someone can go to a particular Topic, and get an idea of the status for that topic. The status could include things such as the official "plan of record" if there is one, a description of current OSAF thinking, proposals for incorporating new ideas, etc, pointers to relevant information, related APIs, etc. <br> Ducky Sherwood has volunteered to help us get this information pulled together, and will be working closely with Chao and I. In particular, Chao and Ducky will be working on examples of a few Topics this week, which we plan to post for feedback as soon as practical. We'll also want to make some decisions about how we'll use this part of the wiki -- will we have formal editors, etc. Having a few examples should be enormously helpful for this discussion.<br> <br> Many thanks to everyone who made suggestions and prodded us to get started. I won't name people individually because that approach almost invariably leaves someone out. So I'll simply say that your input is greatly appreciated.<br> <br> <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>Timeline and administrative topics<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b><br> <br> Chao and Ducky will aim to post sample style guides and basic conventions early this week. Once there's a basic consensus on these the free-form area will be implemented. The structured area will take a bit longer. Chao will post the proposed Chandler Topic Schema as soon as possible. Chao and Ducky will create the examples described above, we can all think about how we might use this area of the wiki, and we'll go from there. <br> <br> Our wiki will not require the use of CamelCaps. Those who want to can use them, and those who don't can avoid them. As to registration, it will be necessary to register once each session to edit or create documents. It will be possible to register anonymously, using "GuestAccount" and "guest" as the password. If your browser remembers passwords forever, you should only need to type the account and password info once.<br> <br> Please let me know if this plan sounds workable. I'm sure it's not perfect.<br> <br> Mitchell<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> </div> </body> </html> --------------060105010804080005070009-- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Open Source Applications Foundation "Process" mailing list http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/process