chill forms in unicode
rajeev joseph sebastian <rajeev_jsv-/[email protected]> Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Hello list, I think encoding chillaskharams is against the Unicode philosophy of representing characters not glyphs. Rajeev J Sebastian --- gnu-malayalam-discuss-request-8H24Gfgyrqprzt3WPRo2bV6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org wrote: > Send gnu-malayalam-discuss mailing list submissions > to > gnu-malayalam-discuss-8H24Gfgyrqprzt3WPRo2bV6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://puggy.symonds.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gnu-malayalam-discuss > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > gnu-malayalam-discuss-request-8H24Gfgyrqprzt3WPRo2bV6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gnu-malayalam-discuss-owner-8H24Gfgyrqprzt3WPRo2bV6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gnu-malayalam-discuss > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [Fwd]: [indic] pD7A..pD7E Malayalam chillu > (Mahesh T. Pai) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:09:22 +0530 > From: "Mahesh T. Pai" <[email protected]> > Subject: [gnu-malayalam-discuss] [Fwd]: [indic] > pD7A..pD7E Malayalam > chillu > To: GNU Malayalam Localisation Team > <gnu-malayalam-discuss-sT238yk/[email protected]> > Message-ID: <20040826193922.GA16229-d/[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Comments welcome. > > ----- Forwarded message from Eric Muller > <emuller-dv/[email protected]> ----- > > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:48:05 -0700 > > From: Eric Muller <emuller-dv/[email protected]> > > Subject: [indic] pD7A..pD7E Malayalam chillu > > To: indic <[email protected]> > > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT > 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) > > Gecko/20040616 > > Message-id: <412E2255.3020601-dv/[email protected]> > > Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated > > > > pD7A MALAYALAM LETTER NN > > pD7B MALAYALAM LETTER N > > pD7C MALAYALAM LETTER RR > > pD7D MALAYALAM LETTER L > > pD7E MALAYALAM LETTER LL > > > > From previous discussions on this list, I am > almost convinced that > > those need to be encoded as characters (and there > is even one more, not > > in modern used, based on KA). What is needed is a > proposal that gives > > evidence of the constrast between, e.g., NA + > visible virama and chillu N. > > > > There is no question that only one of the two > renderings is acceptable > > in any given circumstance, and that the proper > rendering cannot be > > determined from the context; in other words, that > there must be some > > difference in the representation of text. What is > less clear is whether > > that difference of representation should be > achieved by encoding new > > characters, or by using the current mechanism of > following the virama by > > ZWJ (to get the chillu) or ZWNJ (to get the > visible virama). [To be > > sure, the joiner mechanism is currently > underspecified, since the > > rendering of a sequence that does not include a > joiner is not defined; > > but let's set that aside for now.] > > > > My understanding is that there are pairs of > words, which differ only in > > having, e.g., a NA + virama or a chillu N. To > take an example from > > English "last" and "lost" differ in using "a" or > "o", and even if "o" > > was used only in this word, this would be a good > enough reason to > > encoded an "o". What we need are actual examples > of this situation, > > preferably a couple of examples for each of the > six characters. I'll be > > happy to turn those examples into a proposal in > the form preferred by > > the UTC and ISO (to be reviewed here, of course). > > > > > > Eric. > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Mahesh T. Pai <<>> > http://paivakil.port5.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gnu-malayalam-discuss mailing list > gnu-malayalam-discuss-8H24Gfgyrqprzt3WPRo2bV6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org > http://puggy.symonds.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gnu-malayalam-discuss > > > End of gnu-malayalam-discuss Digest, Vol 8, Issue 2 > *************************************************** > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush