chill forms in unicode

rajeev joseph sebastian <rajeev_jsv-/[email protected]> Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.org.region.india.gnu-malayalam
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Hello list,

I think encoding chillaskharams is against the Unicode
philosophy of representing characters not glyphs.

Rajeev J Sebastian

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>    1. [Fwd]: [indic] pD7A..pD7E Malayalam chillu
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> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:09:22 +0530
> From: "Mahesh T. Pai" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [gnu-malayalam-discuss] [Fwd]: [indic]
> pD7A..pD7E Malayalam
> 	chillu
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>  > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:48:05 -0700
>  > From: Eric Muller <emuller-dv/[email protected]>
>  > Subject: [indic] pD7A..pD7E Malayalam chillu
>  > To: indic <[email protected]>
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>  > 
>  > pD7A MALAYALAM LETTER NN
>  > pD7B MALAYALAM LETTER N
>  > pD7C MALAYALAM LETTER RR
>  > pD7D MALAYALAM LETTER L
>  > pD7E MALAYALAM LETTER LL
>  > 
>  > From previous discussions on this list, I am
> almost convinced that 
>  > those need to be encoded as characters (and there
> is even one more, not 
>  > in modern used, based on KA). What is needed is a
> proposal that gives 
>  > evidence of the constrast between, e.g., NA +
> visible virama and chillu N.
>  > 
>  > There is no question that only one of the two
> renderings is acceptable 
>  > in any given circumstance, and that the proper
> rendering cannot be 
>  > determined from the context; in other words, that
> there must be some 
>  > difference in the representation of text. What is
> less clear is whether 
>  > that difference of representation should be
> achieved by encoding new 
>  > characters, or by using the current mechanism of
> following the virama by 
>  > ZWJ (to get the chillu) or ZWNJ (to get the
> visible virama). [To be 
>  > sure, the joiner mechanism is currently
> underspecified, since the 
>  > rendering of a sequence that does not include a
> joiner is not defined; 
>  > but let's set that aside for now.]
>  > 
>  > My understanding is that there are pairs of
> words, which differ only in 
>  > having, e.g., a NA + virama or a chillu N. To
> take an example from 
>  > English "last" and "lost" differ in using "a" or
> "o", and even if "o" 
>  > was used only in this word, this would be a good
> enough reason to 
>  > encoded an "o". What we need are actual examples
> of this situation, 
>  > preferably a couple of examples for each of the
> six characters. I'll be 
>  > happy to turn those examples into a proposal in
> the form preferred by 
>  > the UTC and ISO (to be reviewed here, of course).
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Eric.
>  > 
>  > 
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